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They must all be using voice modifiers on the repeaters around here

For a while there, IIRC, a lot of Midlands just *were* narrowband without an option to correct / change that. Were the rest of the group to set theirs to narrowband it would have likely corrected the issue.

And far more often than not, user error / misconfiguration stemming from not understanding how 'privacy tones' (I know, I know...) work.

This is such a wonderfully succinct way of putting the differences in intended (and, often, the actual) use cases of the 2 services.

It shouldn't be if they're still getting it with the engine off and just running off the battery. Could be some noise from lights tho, since seemingly every car turns the headlights on if you so much as walk too close to it

Which is BS. If we were trying to do anything 100% on our own we'd still be living in caves eating whatever grew on the land and whatever squirrel we could manage to hit with a rock.

Of course, but anecdotally at least, it seems like there's a whole lot more DB20-G / AT779UV / RA-25s out there than DB25-Gs, which would *seem* to have made it a better candidate. But I really have zero visibility into whatever logic they use to choose what radios to develop drivers for.

That's because I mis-read where exactly the issue was, sorry. Yeah, it definitely sounds like Chirp then, if you were able to program the same split in using the OE software. I don't have split tones on any of my gear stuff, fwiw, and it seems to work fine. EDIT: playing around with this, I'm not able to replicate the issue. I'm running it on Linux at the moment, so MAYBE that has something to do with it, but I'm able to get both a simplex and a repeater channel with split DCS tones put into Chirp without it complaining.

Does it do it if you program in the DCS split tone through the OE software? If so, then it might be something weird with the radio. if not, then it'd be worth reporting the issue to Chirp so it can potentially be corrected/

It's simple, but it's clunky as hell. Being able to copy and move entire lines (or hell, an entire table of channels) at once, instead of doing them cell by cell, is nice. But if you don't screw around with your config much and just set it up once and use it, then there's no reason the OE software won't work.

"Stealth" wasn't so much a consideration as "easily finding it when 1 of the kids accidentally drops it down a ravine"

I dig it Here's mine:

Not that meet your insanely specific, incorrectly used definition, no. Otherwise, no, we're definitely not in agreement

Basically no one disputes that. But now we're down an absurd semantic rabbit hole. I don't know of anyone who seriously claims humans evolved independently in the Americas. That's not what anyone means by "Native Americans". But it's the argument you (or someone who has your ear...) are trying to have for...some reason?

Exactly my point.

"Native Americans never existed" is certainly a take...

nevermind

HA! I commented on that video. You can get a similar result for <$300. Well, maybe not at current prices. But that's about where I am for a single car, pit-to-car setup, with super-het radios. Those Racing Radios are *usually* business band radio. I like the stuff he builds, but for a guy always talking about how broke he is, he sure seems to like throwing it around lol For the grassroots racer, it'd be cool if someone at that level would show normies how to do it for more reasonable money IMO. That system costs more than all my radio gear combined.

I don't even carry my CPR / BLS certification card around with me, and there's an exponentially greater likelihood I'll need to show that one. I've got a digital copy I can pull down if I ever need it. But until then...

Generally speaking, the "don't be a dick" principle will get you about 98% of the way there. Despite what you might run across on here...

They have had some spotty quality control, unfortunately. I really like mine, I have 4 of them. All tested good. But there are some that seem to just show up broken. A programming error where you couldn't transmit would get you the "YOU CAN'T DO THAT DUMMY" beep when you key up. If it's not doing that, and it's just outputting 0W, then yeah, they're probably NFG.

I thought it was one that's been neutered

Thankfully all laws (and rules) are moral and good... (I actually think that not linking repeaters on GMRS is a good rule. But rules are only as good as the enforcement thereof. If no one's going to enforce it....)

"illegally programmed" is...certainly a hell of a phrase to use.