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If you just want to *listen*, you can have two radios share an antenna. Unless you use a multicoupler (or some other amplified setup) each radio will only get half the signal, which will negatively affect what you can hear. If you want to *transmit* then the short answer is, "NO". You can't transmit through a multicoupler, and if you are just using a T-connector then the second you hit the PTT on one radio you will almost certainly fry the receiver on the other one. You can put in an antenna switch, which connects one radio at a time to the antenna and isolates the other one, but that probably defeats the purpose of having two radios at opposite ends of the house unless you can live with just selecting one of them to be "active" at a time. Maybe have just one radio and turn up the volume?

You're way behind on that one. I think it was the second or third post for me.

Oh really? Did my "You must be new here" comment bother you that much? (BTW ... I knew you weren't new. That was a joke.) All the required digital settings? Really? OK I'll bite. What color code and talkgroup are we going to use on DMR GMRS? What if I don't like those settings, because there is another repeater a few miles away that is using them? Here's my opinion. If someone wants to get into DMR, they need to get their Technician license. I read every day how easy that is, so shouldn't be a significant barrier. One of the FCC rules for GMRS is (to paraphrase) "play nicely with others". A DMR repeater does not play nicely with analog users.

Oh I understood it perfectly, and I understand this one perfectly too. But thanks for making nasty comments about me because I don't agree with you. GMRS is intended to be a "purchase off the shelf" communication service. Sorry that you don't agree with that either. Yes, there are those who use GMRS the way FCC intended it to be used, and those who want to make it another UHF amateur radio service without a license test. I don't think I said anything about what kind of radios would be sold and by whom. What I said was that the average person who was new to GMRS would have a really hard time programming a DMR radio. I'm really happy for you that "your users" didn't have any trouble programming a DMR radio to use your repeater. How many users do you have? 10? 50? 1000? If you think that automatically extends to every GMRS user in the US, you are wrong.

You must be new here. 50% of the new posters in these forums cannot even figure out how to program an analog repeater into their new GMRS radio. Do you seriously think that DMR will work for "every man"? And before you ask, I am *very* familiar with programming a DMR repeater and DMR radios, both Motorola and other brands. It's orders of magnitude more difficult than programming an offset and a tone or two for an analog repeater.

Yeah I have a Wouxun KG-UV7D (2m/6m) that I bought a year or so ago. Because 6m. Every time I grab it off the shelf the battery is dead. Fortunately I have spares so I can just grab another one.

https://www.amazon.com/Radioddity-GM-30-Handheld-Receiving-Overlanding/dp/B08SLR7W7F/ A little bit more, but a better radio IMHO. And Black Friday sale!

This. Amazon is NOT the place to buy ham radio gear. Actually, some of the ham radio stores sell on Amazon too, but the prices are higher.

The FT-65 is a SOC, not superheterodyne. That's not necessarily terrible; with the proper filtering a SOC radio can be a good performer. On the other hand, I have a couple superhet radios I am very unimpressed with.

I love my FT-2980. Built like a tank, great audio, never gets hot, etc. There is one repeater that's 60+ miles away from me that I am able to use with no issues. As has been said many times here, "power is not everything" and going from 50 watts to 80 watts gives you *maybe* 25% more range ... but it doesn't hurt, either. I just wish there was a 70cm version of the same radio. As far as the FTM-6000, I too have no personal experience with it, but I do see that HRO has it on sale for $40 off until 11/27. (Chances are some of the other retailers will also have it for the same price. Funny how that works!)

Didn't realize we were talking about particular radios; I thought it was about Part 90 radios in general. I've seen lots of people recommend certain Kenwood or Icom (Part 90) radios since they were Part 95 type accepted pre-2017. Can't recall any similar recommendations for Motorola radios. My understanding of "grandfathering" is that they would be OK on GMRS even with other frequencies in them since they were type accepted under the old rules. I think the only way a Part 90 radio could get Part 95 E type acceptance today is if it was not capable of transmitting on amateur radio frequencies, and the vendor would have to submit for 95 E acceptance too.

I'm not following you. Perhaps I misinterpreted you, but you seem to be saying that *any* Part 90 radio is automatically OK to use for GMRS. The way I read the rules, a Part 90 radio *can* be OK to use on GMRS ... but only if it has also been certified under Part 95 E. That's not automatic, and most current Part 90 radios do not have Part 95 certification. What am I missing?

I think *that* is a myth. If it's not, I have yet to see where in Part 95 E that it says it's automatically OK to use a Part 90 radio on GMRS. What it does say is that a radio must be certified under Part 95 E to be "legal" on GMRS. It also says that a radio can be certified under "another part" (like 90) AND Part 95 E, but it specifically forbids a radio from being certified under 95 E if it can also be used on amateur radio frequencies. So "opened up" ham radio transceivers are explicitly NOT OK to use on GMRS (per FCC regulations). As far as LMR radios? Pretty sure that there are some older models that were certified under Part 90 and pre-2017 Part 95 and those are grandfathered and still OK on GMRS. If there are newer models that also have Part 95 certification I haven't met them.

Or "Handie Talkie". A portable handheld radio; what many call a "walkie talkie".

Nope. The wording of the rule has been changed.

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make. I don't think they changed the rules. I think they *clarified* that rule.

Go read the blog entry and decide for yourself. Note this change to 95 E, which is referenced in the letter posted on that blog: § 95.1749 GMRS network connection. Operation of a GMRS station with a telephone connection is prohibited, as in § 95.349. GMRS repeater, base and fixed stations, however, may be connected to the public switched network or other networks for the sole purpose of operation by remote control pursuant to § 95.1745. Note that it says "may be connected to ... other networks for the sole purpose of operation by remote control ..." Remote control means things like turning the repeater on or off, changing the power level or tones, etc. My interpretation of that is, "You can hook your repeater up to the Internet, but only for remote control". In other words, not to link it to other repeaters for voice traffic.

Correct. The squelch tail is *after* the transmission through the repeater stops. That's why you can key up a repeater and then hear the tail after you unkey.

That sounds very much like desense. Your transmitted signal is overloading the frontend on the other HT and it cannot "hear" the repeater. Get someone to take the second HT outside to the end of the driveway and see if that works better.

Many of the authorized dealers have them in stock again and you can get them at the list price, not what some scalper on Amazon is charging. But if you can do it with an Arduino, go for it!

[best Emily Litella voice]Oh! Well that's DIFFERENT!

All of the GMRS frequencies (except for the repeater inputs) are shared with FRS, where business use is permitted. Family Radio Service (FRS). A short-distance two-way voice communication service, with limited data applications, between low power hand-held radios, for facilitating individual, family, group, recreational and business activities. Actually, business use of GMRS is also allowed, but unless the business has a grandfathered license, every user needs their own individual license. The operator of a GMRS station may use that station for two-way plain language voice communications with other GMRS stations and with FRS units concerning personal or business activities. Landscapers and construction crews use FRS quite often and that's not "illegal" at all.

You forgot the "best" part ... they all came pre-programmed with a bunch of test frequencies, many of which were in the public safety bands. Did that hours ago.

Sorry Randy. Since I'm your FAVORITE VIEWER, I'll stop.

Oh, I've read it carefully, many times. Part C does NOT say what you claim that it says. It just says that a radio can be type-accepted for GMRS and another service (but not Part 97). Part 90 isn't even mentioned in that paragraph. Instead, how about you read sub section "a" again instead: Each GMRS transmitter (a transmitter that operates or is intended to operate in the GMRS) must be certified in accordance with this subpart and part 2 of this chapter. In other words, for a radio to be "legal" on GMRS it MUST BE CERTIFIED under Part 95 E. Not under Part 90, or 80, or 15, or 97 ... Part 95.