MichaelLAX

Perhaps but someone who spends $10K on a fancy HF rig is not cheap.

You're right! And mine is still here... Also my favorite Laughing Emoji is among the missing, too!

I put it back! Luckily I hadn't trashed the screenshot yet...

Is it just me, or is my screenshot missing from my post??

I don't think that the word "cheap" is appropriate to your example.

Put another way, when first testing a new radio into a repeater, especially by a Newbie, you want to eliminate as many permutations as possible so as to reduce the troubleshooting list, if you are unable to communicate with that repeater. Given that philosophy, there is no need to filter out other transmissions on that Channel while you are testing your first attempts to transmit into and receive replies from a new repeater. Once you know you can "hit" and receive from that Repeater, you can elect to change your reception tone to that of the repeater, especially if there are nearby GMRS' that like to use that same channel for simplex communications. In this way, you will only hear the Repeater and not those others. Me, I like to hear everybody, because it may be an interesting conversation, or clues to another repeater that I am unaware of. So I rarely include the receive Tone.

Perhaps, but @Wrvq441only joined this Forum on January 9th. Since this forum does not have "stickies" there is no way for a new member to glean important information without asking. Now some may say that there is a "Search" function, but those that say that are most likely not using it. If you search for Roger Beep, you get 234 results. If you search for "Roger Beep" you get 87 results. If you ask a new question, you are guaranteed to get the most up-to-date, fresh information about your question from members of this forum who actually enjoy helping out new members. Unfortunately, you may get responses from one or two curmudgeons who's attitude is "Not so much!" Hey @BoxCar: Did Rich ever answer your question about incorporating FAQs?

The FCC keeps rejecting my application for a MURS license!

That is an interesting quote. On an "opened" DG20-G, you use "A-0" (or FUN-POW) on the microphone to toggle through the power settings. I do not have a power meter to double check, hence my statement that "I believe" those to be the power settings, based on the number of Red Bars that appear when transmitting on L: which is 1 Bar out of 10. That being said, M is 5 bars out of 10 and, if linear, would mean 10 Watts VHF (9 watts UHF), not the 5 I quoted above. To those that do have a power meter, if you have time, please feel free to measure the power output of L, M & H on GMRS and VHF, if your unit is opened. Of course, if in reality the DB20-G's minimum power is 2W, than the Quoted Paragraph 1 would still be correct:

Damn: Sorry about that! I was recently downloading the GM-30 software to answer another question and I must have gotten them mixed up!

What radio are you using? Try this:

Dave: I was just reading the text notes that accompanies the firmware update for version 20210403 and it mentions that it: "Fix bug of 141.3/146.2/250.3 tones." Perhaps that was the problem and you need a firmware update. I might try it myself and take a ride back out to Camarillo Grade and see if I can hear the output of Santa Ynez. The Zip file attached below contains both 20210403 and 20210615 firmware upgrades. Radioddity_GM-30_Firmware 20210615 & Software_V2.06_20210615.zip

But it can be discussed "silently!"

Isn't that a quote from the well-known purveyor of technical information, Leland C. Scott, KC8LDO?

Isn't his example for a repeater input on 467.xxx?

First off: Channel 16 on the DB20-G is the simplex version of the frequency 462.575; you want Channel 24, so that you will transmit on the Repeater Input of 467.575. Using the CPS software is always easiest to set a Tone, but in a pinch it can be done using the buttons of the Radio. These instructions are for when the radio is out of the box GMRS and not when it has been opened up to transmit on Ham frequencies 2 meters and 70 cms; although I believe they are the same otherwise. When you use this method, the Tone setting is only temporary, so that once you change Channels or turn the radio off and then back on again, the Tone setting will default back to the Tone set using programming software There is a way to do this more Permanent so that the Tone setting survives changing Channels and/or powering the radio off and then back on, but it is more complicated so let's do the Temporary one: Scroll to Channel 24 using the DN and UP button on your Microphone (or using the UP and DOWN Arrow buttons on the radio) Push the FUN button; this will open up the Menu at the bottom of the screen Usually it defaults to "01:T-CDC" which is the Tone Menu. If you are not at 01, use the V/M as UP and MAIN as DOWN to scroll through the Menu items until you get to 01:T-CDC Once you are at Menu 01:T-CDC, it will either have a value already selected, such as 146.2, or say OFF If it says OFF, push the MON button so that it nows has a value, such as 62.5; this is CTCSS. To change a CTCSS setting, use the UP Arrow Button as UP and DOWN Arrow Button as DOWN to get to the CTCSS value you desire to transmit with to open the Repeater, such as 146.2 To enter a Digital Tone instead of a CTCSS Tone, use the MON button to toggle between these different setting: • OFF • A pre-programmed value such as 62.5 • Value, such as 62.5 and the word "edit" after it • 000 N sp:0 • 000 I sp:0 These last two settings are for DCS digital tones that are either Normal (N) or Inverse (I); most people use Normal DCS settings; so toggle to 000 N. sp:0 Now using the UP and DOWN Arrow Buttons, scroll to the number of the digital DCS code you need; such as 654 N sp:0 Push the FUN button to leave the Tone Menu Now when you transmit you will be Channel 24 and your DCS transmit Tone. NOTE: I do not know why Radioddity chose to give Digital Tones a confusing "Code No." in the manual; these only confuse the issue.

Actually the green area on the map is the Angeles National Forest, which was between us. We were both testing "opened" Radioddity DB20-Gs on GMRS, MURS, 2 meters and 70 cms on our various power settings, which I believe are 2, 5 and 18 watts (20 for VHF). BTW: if you put a "@" before our screen name i.e., @MichaelLAX the person get an alert that he has been mentioned.

I do not have outdoors type experience like your usage. Another friend here on myGMRS and I have done testing on 2 meters VHF vs. GMRS and we clearly had better results between our 25 mile (as the crow flies) distant homes using VHF.

Do you have an older PC that runs an earlier version of Windows than 10? Did we ask earlier, how did you get your USB cable?

Unless you live in a flat area and use an antenna with line of sight to the repeater without obstructions, coverage maps are a YMMV type of guide. My local Amateur Radio Repeater club, The PAPA System, uses these types of coverage maps:

Well, out of the box, it does not do any Repeaters, as it is FRS. But with the ability to use its CPS software with a USB cable, and a Hex Editor to modify the transmit frequencies to 467.xxx, it becomes Repeater friendly! Except... I have not confirmed if the CPS software actually changes it from Narrow Band to Wide Band, as I have attempted to do. Mine is set to change Channel 19 simplex to the local Channel 19 repeater I use; and yes, I mentioned those because those are the repeater channels that you said you use.

Are you saying that In Amateur Radio you can set up a cross-band repeater to output on the input of another Repeater, so that I can walk around with my HT and use a Icom IC-2730 to hit a Ham repeater much further away?

For example? Some inexpensive ones?

It really is the best way to enjoy GMRS from your easy chair!