[GMRS travel channel]

On 5/17/2022 at 12:15 PM, marcspaz said:

 

Well, I hope my post may help clear things up. I doubt it, but hopefully. 

 

I know I stir the pot with some of my posts about this, but reality is, this is my current and typical daily situation while I'm driving around...

[Picture of Midland radio on Ch 19 - Deleted to reduce space]

I'm probably still go a stir the pot when this topic pops up though. LOL

I'm lucky enough to have dual channel, that said my secondary is on Simple Ch 19 as well.  

Taking over GMRS one licensee at a time

[Looking at buying a new GMRS radio, suggestions plz?]

On 6/9/2022 at 6:54 PM, back4more70 said:

Excuse me, he clearly states in every video that I am his favorite user, and he doesn't want to waste my time.

Hang on, hang on, hang on, HANG ON! 

It is very clear to anybody who is watching that I, me, I, aka not someone else, is his favorite viewer.

I think we need someone to adjudicate this ruling, and as i'm the one who bought up that adjudication is required, I will be appointing myself to the role.

Phew, glad we got that sorted

Adam

p.s - the official travel channel for GMRS in CH 19, no tone.  #neverforget

[WOXUN KG-1000G not transmitting to repeater using CTCSS codes]

Ok team, I have solved the issue - and along the way learnt a great deal about how PL/CTCSS/DCS/etc tones work.

That said, before I get started I wanted to shout out to @wayoverthere @BoxCar @wrci350 and @Screech for all the suggestions, followups, ideas and collectively all the information that I needed to get this one solved.

With that said, while I now understand it all, and I got it to work, I also realize that while it's easy in my head, it's hard to write down - i'm going to give it a try though so maybe someone stumbles across this one day and it helps them out.

So through my journey I found out a few things:

1. There are actually two repeaters on the 462.55/467.55 frequency that are relatively close to where I am located - one uses input tone 131.4 no output tone, the second uses input and output tone of 241.8
2.  When i've been testing what has been suggested in this thread, I did have a variable that I hadn't thought to share/I didn't think mattered. I've had the van parked in different spots - and while those spots have been less than 20ft away, that's been the difference between hitting both repeaters clear as day vs barely at all.  I've done this several times, it's quite consistent.

So my solution is

1. Setup two channels, each using their own output tones and both using no input tone.
2. Set one of the two channels as my secondary channel on the KG1000 - I keep the primary channel on for my simplex comms with my friends
3. When I receive a transmission I will return transmit on the frequency i've got set as my secondary - if i'm heard, awesome - If i'm not I quickly switch to the other channel and that inevitably gets through without an issue.

What did I learn?

1. Having no PL/privacy/CTCSS/DCS tone on the receive side means you hear everything on that frequency (I did not know this!)
2. Line of sight/obstacles do and will have an impact to your transmissions
3. I'm somewhat lucky that I have two overlapping repeaters that effectively extend my transmission range

Hopefully this explains it all and clarifies the combination of items that happened.

Adam

tl;dr - radio works fine, user needed to better understand radio theory

[WOXUN KG-1000G not transmitting to repeater using CTCSS codes]

On 6/12/2022 at 7:04 AM, WRQW877 said:

Wildzebra, were you able to resolve the issue of the repeater not hearing you? Curious as I'm having a simular problem with one of mg Wouxun KG-1000G.

Sorry for such a long time to reply - and thanks to all that did - I got knocked out pretty hard with the 'rona* and haven't been doing much of anything.  Unfortuantely I have still not made progress with this particular repeater, though I have had sucess setting up simplex and other repeaters on both my HT and KG-1000G without an issue - so i'm thinking it's just the repeater itself

What repeater are you trying to access and what settings do you have. If you have a screenshot, add it here and i'll take a look at it and help where I can.

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44 minutes ago, wrci350 said:

Many (but not all) repeaters also have a courtesy tone or a squelch tail that gets transmitted after a radio unkeys.  Do you hear that?

I do

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1 minute ago, wrci350 said:

Pretty sure the OP said the issue was with *transmitting*.  If it was a receive problem, then this would be a useful debugging step.  But the receive tone doesn't come into play with transmitting.

@WildzebraHow far apart are the mobile and the HT when you are testing?  If they are only a few feet apart and you are transmitting on high power, it's quite possible that you are desensing the receiver in the HT ... that 50 watts going out on 467.x makes the HT deaf on the corresponding 462.x frequency.  Have you tried moving the HT further away?

I am certainly a few feet away - and now that you say it, it makes perfect sense!

Time to get in the truck and have the wife at home with the HT

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10 hours ago, wayoverthere said:

• First, can you set the retevis (or another radio) to listen on 467.550 to see if the wouxun is indeed transmitting? That would help narrow if it's a transmit issue or tone issue. 

First, thanks for all the replies here - greatly appreciated

Tests i've run

• Reversed the TX[1] and RX[2] (using the tone on both) on the HT and was able to get comms going in both directions
• I also did the same test but with the tones off - works fine.

So if my (somewhat hazy) logic is correct, we're now talking about the repeater potentially being an issue, correct?

I've got some other info but i'll start at the start and see next things I can investigate

Adam

 

• [1] Set RX on the HT to 467
• [2] Set TX on the HT to 462

 

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5 hours ago, BoxCar said:

Set the Tone Mode to Tone, not TSQL and remove the receive tone. You won't hear the repeater unless it is using a transmit tone.

Thanks for this - from what i'm seeing it's saying it has both an input and output tone? https://mygmrs.com/repeater/4914

(if i'm mis-reading this, sincerely, let me know - i'm pulling my hair out here and might be missing the blatantly obvious)

Adam

[WOXUN KG-1000G not transmitting to repeater using CTCSS codes]

Evening all - before I start if this has already been answered or there is somewhere I can self-serve an answer, please point me there.  I did search but have come up empty.

I'm trying to connect to this repeater with no success when sending transmissions.

Using the RT systems software I have set the channel up as:

• RX: 462.55000
• TX: 467.55000
• Offset freq: 5.00 Mhz
• Offset direction: Plus
• Operating mode: FM
• Tone mode: T SQL
• CTCSS: 241.8
• RX CTCSS: 241.8
• TX Power: High

Problem: When transmitting from my KG-1000G it is not received on other radios. (RX works fine, see below)

Testing i've done:

1. I programmed my 10w handheld (Retevis RT1), with the same config as above in and when I transmit on the HT it comes through clearly on my KG-1000G
2. I created a simplex channel on both my HT and Woxun using the same 241.8 CTCSS code for TX and RX - it works perfectly in both directions

This unit was installed today and was a swap of the radio only as it's replacing an existing Midland MXT400.  As an FYI, the Midland connected to and communicated regularly on this repeater - and when eyeballing the config files of both radios they look identical to me.

So, i'm stumped. Two other radios TX and RX to the repeater just fine, and while it will RX it apparently does not TX.

Any help greatly appreciated - i've been staring at this thing for far too many hours (hence it's nearly midnight) and i'm no closer to solving this.

Adam