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As he ^ said, "best" is subjective. To my eye, as someone who is relatively new to the hobby, they look largely the same. If it were me, I'd go with the Nagoya. I know the name and something about the yellow steel on the Tram says "cheap" to me. Completely subjective and unscientific. Kind of like the original question.

 

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19 minutes ago, Northcutt114 said:

As he ^ said, "best" is subjective. To my eye, as someone who is relatively new to the hobby, they look largely the same. If it were me, I'd go with the Nagoya. I know the name and something about the yellow steel on the Tram says "cheap" to me. Completely subjective and unscientific. Kind of like the original question.

 

Yellow steel? You mean the brass NMO connector?

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5 hours ago, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:

Firstly if this isn't in the correct place, feel free to move it.

Secondly, which is the best, the Nagoya or the Tram mount?

https://shop.mygmrs.com/collections/antennas/products/nagoya-gpk-01-nmo-ground-plane-mount-kit

https://www.buytwowayradios.com/tram-1465.html

it's literally the same stuff from the same Chinese manufacturing facility. Just buy one and be happy.

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I haven't used the ground plane kit from either, but I have used antennas from both. As a general rule, I was more pleased with the Trams than the Nagoyas. I have no idea whether that says anything at all about their ground plane kits.

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18 minutes ago, WRTC928 said:

I haven't used the ground plane kit from either, but I have used antennas from both. As a general rule, I was more pleased with the Trams than the Nagoyas. I have no idea whether that says anything at all about their ground plane kits.

Thanks, this is the kind of information I am looking for, what, if any issues did you experience with them? Did they cause higher SWR readings? And how many of them did you go thru, as in had to replace upon purchase?

Edited by CyborgAlienWRYG738
Forgot a question
Posted
5 minutes ago, nokones said:

Why not buy a professional grade Laird base station antenna which is a better quality antenna and be even more pleased then you would be with a Tram.

Because I have zero need for a big ass antenna nor the eyesore. Besides, I'm already using a Laird antenna, attaching it to the top of a flagpole.

Posted
1 hour ago, Northcutt114 said:

I guess? Like I said, I'm new to this. Why would one have brass and one have steel?

The Nagoya is 'Tri-Band'.

If you want to get deep in the weeds and basic:

Each transmit is trimmed as close as possible to the wavelength, and the ground plane is a 'virtual' (If I don't add that some pedant will comment, but you can gloss over it) mirror image of the same Tx from the top (I know all about null-fields, leave me alone; you had over a day) and, ideally, is also 'trimmed'.

The different rods should combine for one of three bands and the trim 'matches' the trim of the wire (antenna you see) you picked to transmit on that antenna. If you, in fact, have a dual or tri-band antenna, both will equally perform but they are tri band and that seldom works well without friends, work and beer. 

But you don't want a tri-band bc I presume you do not have a HAM license or would know all this.

In a perfect world you would calculate to a specific frequency, do some math, cut things and 'trim' to perfection but we use 'bands' of frequencies.

The other one says UHF; that's a huge band.

I'm going to say you will have more options with the  Nagoya.

 

 

 

Posted
36 minutes ago, LilRedDog said:

The Nagoya is 'Tri-Band'. 

 

 

 

I hadn't noticed that difference although I would assume that since it claims to cover all three bands without specifically claiming it's only for Ham, it would be sufficient for both. You are correct I don't yet have my ticket, I don't know if I ever will either. Which is why I came to the GMRS specific forum for answers. I wouldn't have thought the mount was actually specifically tuned to different frequencies being a block of metal. Would it actually matter for GMRS, that much? I got the Tram one, when all was assembled, it's getting 4.6+ SWR, I was curious if it was maybe it being defective or  what's the possible cause of the problem, reason for my initial query. Also, people aren't born with knowledge you gain it when you ask questions and learn it.

Posted
2 hours ago, Northcutt114 said:

I guess? Like I said, I'm new to this. Why would one have brass and one have steel?

 

With the exception of mounting hardware, steel is seldom used in antennas. Aluminum is lightweight and a very good conductor. For RF connectors brass is much more easily machined and a better conductor than steel. But brass is often plated to prevent oxidation which can affect performance (mechanical and electrical) and appearance. 

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3 hours ago, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:

Because I have zero need for a big ass antenna nor the eyesore. Besides, I'm already using a Laird antenna, attaching it to the top of a flagpole.

So why are you looking at Tram and Nagoya?

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