WRQD400 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 I recently bought a pair of Motorola DLR1060 from eBay to work with my existing DTR650s, DTR700s and DLR1060s. I factory reset all my radios and could not get the eBay pair to work with my existing radios. I then tried to read the eBay pair with Business Radio CPS R8.02 and R9.04, the current version but get this error: "The CPS does not support this model. Please update your CPS." I don't know what other version to try since R9.04 is the newest one available. Both radios have labels intact that appear legitimate with dates of Jul. 30, 2022. Any help or ideas on how to get these 2 eBay radios to read or write is greatly appreciated. Bernard, WRQD400/K6KBL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQD400 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 After providing the labels to Motorola, they said these are for the Latin America region due to the Anatel marking on the model/serial labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sshannon Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 50 minutes ago, WRQD400 said: After providing the labels to Motorola, they said these are for the Latin America region due to the Anatel marking on the model/serial labels. So, does that mean they're paperweights, unable to be used in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axorlov Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 I'd guess that if radios have label with FCC ID, they are allowed to be used in US. It is a matter of finding correct CPS for them, which may be a big problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sshannon Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 hours ago, axorlov said: I'd guess that if radios have label with FCC ID, they are allowed to be used in US. It is a matter of finding correct CPS for them, which may be a big problem. But do they have FCC ID labels or are they just for the export market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lscott Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 This is a perfect example of why you MUST research the radio(s) you’re planing bidding on, or just buying, on eBay. The key things to look for are the tags on the back of the radio. The next thing to do is track down the manufacturer’s brochures. Those will typically have the exact model numbers and very often the FCC ID’s of those as well. Manufactures makes radios for different markets around the world and lock the programming to versions of the software for those markets only. If you can’t find the software don’t even bother with the radio. You’ll pay good money for a brick. I had purchased two Kenwood TK-3170’s from a seller in Dublin Ireland. They were super cheap at $30US for both. I knew these were the market code “E” radios, based on the tags on the back I saw in the photos and NO FCC ID, whereas for North America it would be a market code “K”. I verified my programing software would work with these before making the purchase. It was the same deal with a Kenwood TK-D300 analog/DMR radio. It is sold in the EU, not in North America. I had the software for that one too so I got it. https://forums.mygmrs.com/gallery/image/255-tk-d300e-fmdmr/?_rid=1908 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQD400 Posted February 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 These radios do have FCC part 15 labels on them but also Anatel markings. The eBay seller doesn't seem to know much about them and replied that these are analog but we all know these are not. The seller also managed to sell all 50 that they had on hand. I suspect all the other cheap DLR1060s on eBay may be from Brazil since it is listed as discontinued on the Brazillian version of the Motorola website. The radios will work with each other but not with my existing DTR650s, DTR700s and an another pair of DLR1060s that all work together. I looked at the labels on another pair of DLR1060s that I bought from a reputable dealer and the labels look exactly the same, minus the Anatel markings. Mototrola decided to use the same model number for both the North American and Latin American versions as the labels read exactly the same for model number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axorlov Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 This is the label on my DLR1060, that I bought off ebay few years ago. That DLR1060, and it's twin, is accessed and modified by CPS downloaded from Motorola, and I can't tell you the version, it's installed on a different computer that I don't have access at this moment. The FCC ID is visible, and if you do the search (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm) it will return Part 15C with 0.995W on 900MHz. Anything like this on Brazilian (South American) DLR1060? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQD400 Posted February 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 The ones I bought from eBay do not have FCC IDs on them. The ones I bought from a reputable seller do. I am now working with the seller to return these. Below are the labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACNWComms Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 Great thread, and thank you all for sharing. I also use many DTR410's as well as some DTR550/650 radios and always keep a watch out for compatible models that are cheap, but this has served as a warning "buyer beware". I like the range and privacy options of the DTR series radios and often see DLR series radios available for sale, but do often wonder on the reason they are being sold so cheaply. Have been describing to co-workers on global projects how the Motorola XPR7550e is the XiR8668 in Asia, and the DM4xxx series in Europe and how they differ even though they look the same. Then there is CPS.....another night mare at times. wayoverthere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQJ416 Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 Does Motorola still enforce their hold/rights on software for discontinued radios as you said these are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axorlov Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, WRQJ416 said: Does Motorola still enforce their hold/rights on software for discontinued radios as you said these are? I was able to download CPS for DLR1060 (US version with FCC ID) from Motorola website for free. Look at this thread, a great summary of DLR/DTR series with links: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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