Newb Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 New 50 amp switching power supply tripping GFIC the minute it is turned on. ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SteveShannon Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 Just now, Newb said: New 50 amp switching power supply tripping GFIC the minute it is turned on. ????? Is it hooked up to anything? WRUU653 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lscott Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, Newb said: New 50 amp switching power supply tripping GFIC the minute it is turned on. ????? Many of the switching power supplies use simple capacitive input filters. When switched on the high inrush current to charge them up can pop fuses and circuit breakers. The better power supplies have a “soft start” circuit that slowly charges the input filter capacitors over a few seconds. If your power supply has a soft-start circuit it might not be working. WRUU653 and WRXB215 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SteveShannon Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 Is it a a gfci outlet or a breaker that also trips on overcurrent? WRUU653 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Newb Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 I have tried it with a GMRS radio attached and with nothing attached. The first time it would only trip the GFCI receptacle when keying the transmitter. I reset the GFCI and just let the power supply run with the radio on but I did not transmit. After about 2 minutes the GFCI tripped and every time I reset it, the GFCI would trip. I unplugged the power supply and everything in the garage including the drill press worked fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 WRUU653 Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 So if I’m understanding you correctly this is tripping a GFCI receptacle and not a GFCI breaker. That narrows down the tripping to a ground fault and not an overload of the circuit. A GFCI operates by monitoring the current on the hot side vs the neutral side. At about 5 milliamperes difference it trips due to the current not returning on the neutral. Thus the current is going somewhere else, a ground fault. (Side note, Even if the receptacle isn’t grounded it will still trip). So it sounds like you have a ground fault in your device that you are plugging in. A GFCI breaker will also trip from over current. To much load. Another factor at play if you have a newer home is an Arc fault breaker and or receptacle. They work differently than a GFCI. This can be confused as a GFCI and some arc faults are both. Here is where it gets fun… some arc faults have been known to trip from RF. That’s a whole other rabbit hole. Try plugging into another known GFCI circuit in your home. If it’s tripping it probably has a fault. If not you may need to have an electrician check the garage GFCI but since you mentioned everything else works in the garage my guess is it’s not the issue. One last thought here, @Lscott mentioned capacitive input filters on the power supply. Which could be at play. I don’t want to go down more of a rabbit hole than I already have but I would be interested in what the manufacturer of the power supply had to say regarding the tripping. There can be many factors involved here. Disclaimer I do recommend electrical work be done by qualified electrician. I hope this helps and good luck. SteveShannon and WRXB215 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SteveShannon Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Newb said: I have tried it with a GMRS radio attached and with nothing attached. The first time it would only trip the GFCI receptacle when keying the transmitter. I reset the GFCI and just let the power supply run with the radio on but I did not transmit. After about 2 minutes the GFCI tripped and every time I reset it, the GFCI would trip. I unplugged the power supply and everything in the garage including the drill press worked fine. How does it work with the radio completely disconnected from the power supply? How are you grounding the radio, or are you leaving it ungrounded? Same for the antenna. Finally, what does the power supply instruction manual say about being plugged into a GFCI receptacle? I’ll attach a screenshot from the part of a Samlex manual that addresses this: Lscott and WRUU653 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 WRUU653 Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Sshannon said: Finally, what does the power supply instruction manual say about being plugged into a GFCI receptacle? I’ll attach a screenshot from the part of a Samlex manual that addresses this: Great find @Sshannon, I was wondering what the manufacturer might have regarding this. SteveShannon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 WRUU653 Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 A little additional info on the RF factor, here in California when PG&E first went to remote reading meters the frequency they used didn't get along with GFCI breakers made by Zinsco and were causing breakers to trip in some homes. Similar issues occurred with some of the early arc fault breakers. SteveShannon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Newb Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 The "paper" that came with the unit written in 8th grade Chinglish didn't have any info as above. I called Amazon and all I got was "send it back". Done. SteveShannon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 WRYW768 Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 Have you tried using a plain 15/20 amp receptacle to see if that pops a standard breaker. And if it does not then check the amperage load on it with a clamp meter. If there was something wrong with the power supply it would have popped the fuses or internal circuit breaker? Sounds like you have a rush of current flowing and the GFI is tripping. And if you do not have a clamp meter purchase a device that plugs directly into the receptacle and power supply that will tell you wattage and/or amperage draw. Home depot might have one. Use them to detemine wattage on appliances for generator usage. Have a great day. Be SAFE Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 WRUE951 Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 On 6/26/2023 at 6:29 PM, Newb said: New 50 amp switching power supply tripping GFIC the minute it is turned on. ????? Had the same exact problem with an Antron 50 Amp in my garage.. House was new so i was able to get the contractor over to check things out with the Power Panel.. The electrician said exactly what LSCOTT said and suggested i change the breaker to a non GFI Breaker.. Electrician would not do it because of building codes, but i swapped it out in 30 seconds.. No more tripped breakers. WRXB215 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Question
Newb
New 50 amp switching power supply tripping GFIC the minute it is turned on. ?????
Link to comment
Share on other sites
11 answers to this question
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.