PA141 Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 I have a co-worker that purchased a UV-5R with the intent of getting his license. My base image also has public service and other channels programmed in. Since he is new to radio, I want to eliminate any chance of accidental transmission outside of ham frequencies. I have not found an option to selectively disable a transmit frequency. There is an option to disable TX on VHF and/or UHF in general. There are also settings for the frequency limits, but I suspect that will remove RX capability also. Is there a setting that I am missing somewhere in Chirp? Obviously I could remove all the non-ham frequencies, but it would be nice for him to be able to receive other services. Worse case, I could enter a manual split frequency set to some oddball 2M simplex frequency, but that would be a major PITA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borage257 Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 Set duplex to off and vfo tx to off WRPR990 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleYoda Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 Duplex off means transmit is still allowed on the receiving frequency, which could still get him in trouble. EDIT: I am not sure; "off" may be different than blank, if you trust that but I can't test right now. EDIT2: I checked one radio with "off" and the TX indicator lights do come on, but that's as far as I would go. AFAIK, Chirp's special settings included, the "major PITA" way is the only way because regular UV5Rs do not support separate frequency ranges for TX and RX. There are UV-5R-ish models like the GT-5R that only transmit on HAM while allowing you to put in non-HAM frequencies for receive only. p.s. I looked and I don't see a setting for VFO TX. There is one for VHF and one for UHF, but it isn't clear if that just applies to VFO or channels as well. Sshannon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sshannon Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 Desolder the PTT switch. Borage257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 What would happen if he accidentally transmitted out side of ham frequencies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sshannon Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said: What would happen if he accidentally transmitted out side of ham frequencies? Magic eight ball says: Nothing! Especially if it’s unintentionally done. But if he made a habit of it, and made a nuisance of himself to the point where someone complained to the FCC, he would receive a letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Sshannon said: But if he made a habit of it, and made a nuisance of himself to the point where someone complained to the FCC, he would receive a letter. Would he though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sshannon Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, OffRoaderX said: Would he though? I doubt that he would. He seems to have a good heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQC527 Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said: What would happen if he accidentally transmitted out side of ham frequencies? Sshannon and WRUU653 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sshannon Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, WRQC527 said: I bet that nobody has ever been jailed for FCC infractions. I doubt it’s even possible. Fines, yes, in extreme circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQC527 Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sshannon said: 10 minutes ago, WRQC527 said: Expand I bet that nobody has ever been jailed for FCC infractions. There's actually GMRS and amateur radio gangs in FCC prisons. They pretty much respect each other's turf, but every now and then... Sshannon and WRUU653 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sshannon Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, WRQC527 said: There's actually GMRS and amateur radio gangs in FCC prisons. They pretty much respect each other's turf, but every now and then... Smuggling in UHF antennas has certain advantages over HF. WRUU653 and WRQC527 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 39 minutes ago, Sshannon said: I bet that nobody has ever been jailed for FCC infractions. I doubt it’s even possible. Fines, yes, in extreme circumstances. Public FCC records show 3 or 4 mean letters and two fines (that so far have not been paid) since 2012 for non-business infractions for CB, ham, and GMRS. Zero prison-time or shot-dogs. Not sayin that the FCC doesn't care... But...... Sshannon and WRUU653 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sshannon Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said: Public FCC records show 3 or 4 mean letters and two fines (that so far have not been paid) since 2012 for non-business infractions for CB, ham, and GMRS. Zero prison-time or shot-dogs. Not sayin that the FCC doesn't care... But...... And for the most part, neither should we. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t make an effort to comply with the regulations, but we should not be so quick to condemn each other for failures to comply. WRUU653 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Sshannon said: That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t make an effort to comply with the regulations, but we should not be so quick to condemn each other for failures to comply. I agree 100%.. It just seems odd to me how "some people" go around telling fairy tales about what will happen if you even accidentally do anything out of compliance, and I have seen these myths and fairy-tailes get many n00bs overly-concerned or even fearful. Sshannon, WRXE693 and WRUU653 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sshannon Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said: I agree 100%.. It just seems odd to me how "some people" go around telling fairy tales about what will happen if you even accidentally do anything out of compliance, and I have seen these myths and fairy-tailes get many n00bs overly-concerned or even fearful. For once I don’t feel like I’m in the “Some people” category. OffRoaderX, WRUU653 and WRYQ685 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA141 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 hours ago, UncleYoda said: Duplex off means transmit is still allowed on the receiving frequency, which could still get him in trouble. EDIT: I am not sure; "off" may be different than blank, if you trust that but I can't test right now. EDIT2: I checked one radio with "off" and the TX indicator lights do come on, but that's as far as I would go. AFAIK, Chirp's special settings included, the "major PITA" way is the only way because regular UV5Rs do not support separate frequency ranges for TX and RX. There are UV-5R-ish models like the GT-5R that only transmit on HAM while allowing you to put in non-HAM frequencies for receive only. p.s. I looked and I don't see a setting for VFO TX. There is one for VHF and one for UHF, but it isn't clear if that just applies to VFO or channels as well. Thanks. I don't see VFO TX either in the latest Chirp-next. Will test the non-standard split option when his radio arrives. This will hopefully be adequate to remove the possibility of transmitting on a public service frequency. WRYQ685 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRUU653 Posted September 12, 2023 Report Share Posted September 12, 2023 I do not have this particular Boofwang (nod to Randy) but when I use chirp on another Baofeng I can and do use the duplex off selection in Chirp to prevent keying up on frequencies I want locked out. Yes, it works for my radio at least and to clarify I put it in the OFF position in Chirp as opposed to leaving it blank. PA141 and WRYQ685 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA141 Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 23 hours ago, WRUU653 said: I do not have this particular Boofwang (nod to Randy) but when I use chirp on another Baofeng I can and do use the duplex off selection in Chirp to prevent keying up on frequencies I want locked out. Yes, it works for my radio at least and to clarify I put it in the OFF position in Chirp as opposed to leaving it blank. Thank you. This works on a radio received today. The offset on the radio displays as +- above the frequency and disables transmit. WRUU653 and WRHS218 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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