Any tips on monitoring in Europe?

[GreggInFL]

I'm thinking about brining my GMRS radio to Germany, assuming there is anything to hear.  I'll stay away from the PTT button, so there are no licensing issues.  Thoughts?

[Lscott]

They don't use GMRS in Germany. If anything its PMR446.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMR446

[GreggInFL]

Ah, got it.  Yeah, 446 won't work.  Thanks!

[back4more70]

In Soviet Russia, radio monitors you.

[WRUU653]

10 hours ago, Lscott said:

They don't use GMRS in Germany. If anything its PMR446.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMR446

Thanks for the link @Lscott. After reading about PMR446 our GMRS looks pretty good. 

[ULTRA2]

1 hour ago, WRUU653 said:

After reading about PMR446 our GMRS looks pretty good.

What's the difference? Other than one is used in the UK?

[SteveShannon]

7 hours ago, ULTRA2 said:

What's the difference? Other than one is used in the UK?

500 milliwatts, fixed antennas, 16 channels analog/32 digital, different frequency from GMRS, and non-licensed.

[WRUU653]

The low power and fixed antenna I would think limit these radios in comparison to our GMRS. Still I found it interesting to see how radio services are handled differently in other places. 

[BoxCar]

From one of the AI bots:

Based on the web search results, it seems that the dPMR modulation mask is accepted by the FCC for operation in the US. According to one source¹, “dPMR equipment complies with the relevant European standard ETSI EN 301 166 as well as the FCC emission mask applicable for operation in the US.” Another source² states that “dPMR uses 4FSK at 2400 Bd. The dibits are mapped to +/-1050 Hz and +/-350 Hz from the center frequency. Because the emission mask is so tight, two 6.25 kHz dPMR signals can be used next to each other within a 12.5 kHz channel without causing interference to each other or adjacent channels.” A third source³ confirms that the dPMR modulation scheme would comply with the FCC emission mask mandated for LMRs to have a 6.25-kilohertz capability.

[Lscott]

8 hours ago, BoxCar said:

From one of the AI bots:

Based on the web search results, it seems that the dPMR modulation mask is accepted by the FCC for operation in the US. According to one source¹, “dPMR equipment complies with the relevant European standard ETSI EN 301 166 as well as the FCC emission mask applicable for operation in the US.” Another source² states that “dPMR uses 4FSK at 2400 Bd. The dibits are mapped to +/-1050 Hz and +/-350 Hz from the center frequency. Because the emission mask is so tight, two 6.25 kHz dPMR signals can be used next to each other within a 12.5 kHz channel without causing interference to each other or adjacent channels.” A third source³ confirms that the dPMR modulation scheme would comply with the FCC emission mask mandated for LMRs to have a 6.25-kilohertz capability.

dPMR and the ultra narrow version of NXDN are similar except they use a different CAI, common air interface, protocol. In fact there was a European version of a Kenwood NXDN radio that could be converted to dPMR per the brochure.

 

NX-220E-320E.pdf