Wouxun KG-935G+ Step by Step Repeater Setup?

[Sorceress21]

I am a 100% nOOb to GMRS but not to radios or tech. No...scratch that, I'm a 200% nOOb at GMRS. Please be kind.

Preamble: I've spent days trying to find answers for this question and have found that there must be some secret squirrel password to learn this platform because every tutorial out there both written and YT all miss critical details and steps. They all assume the basics are already understood which infuriates me ( but that's another conversation because that's not just radios stuff, that's all tuts on the web). I mean c'mon guys, if you're gonna due a tut for absolute beginners then do it on the assumption the viewer is totally unaware of nomenclature and even how to turn the damn thing on.

Repeater setup baffles me and I'm very technically savy. Not in what they do but how to setup this F-ing hunk of Chinese plastic to use one.

Other than that it's a cool radio. No problem talking unit to unit with a friend down the street. Easy peezy Japaneezee. Tune both radios to the same channel and walahh! You can gossip yourself to death about the the HOA and the neighbors right out of the box just like an FRS walkie!

Buuuuuuuuuuttttt Repeaters? No one seems to want to ever include every single setting that needs to be just pretty princess correct to connect to one of these neato lil things.

I want to attempt to connect to this repeater, sooooooooo How? Set what to where and when? I know this one may be offline or out of range, but setting things up for one correctly helps me try others.:

Downlink:	462.650
Uplink:	467.650
Uplink Tone:	141.3
Downlink Tone:	141.3
Travel Tone:	YES
ORI:	YES
County:	Alexander
Owner:	WRJM341
Use:	OPEN
Op Status:	On-Air
Coverage:	25 mi radius.   Assuming I've never turned this radio on before and have never ever even used a two way, but am teach savy, please for the love of all that's holy walk me through this? I do not know what sidebands, Tones or OFFSETS or thingamagigs or whatsagoobers are are so don't give me five simple steps that end with  "If you're in range and as long as your offset is set right and your spatial warp cryptonsporidum-PU39 analyzer matrix field is tuned to the correct anti-matter vibration range with the sub-quantum transducer range set to 1GFYS it'll work"! ARRRRRRGGGGHHHH... Hahaha lol. See where I'm going? I need Repeaters for Dummies, MORON edition, not Geordi LaForge explaining warp physics. If you're gonna help me, please don't leave anything out, even steps you assume anyone that knows how to push a PTT would already know! All the GRMS guides use different nomenclature than all the tuts, that baffles me even more, why? The above example of a Repeater listing uses "Uplink & Downlink" as a term vs. xmit and receive. They all do, but all the tuts just use xmit and receive to explain what to set. So is uplink the same as transmit, downlink the same as xmit which woudl be logical? Ya'll see why I'm confused, the nomenclature never matches the terms used in the YT vids I've watched? Please help and Thank you!

 

 

 

[WRWE456]

2 hours ago, Sshannon said:

I would challenge you to use your manual to teach yourself the individual steps necessary to set and clear tones.

I would add to spend time learning the menu system. Get to the point where you can confidently go in and change things. If you make changes one at a time it is easy to put them back. Try programing the two left side programmable function (PF) buttons is a good practice exercise. It's all in the manual.

Whenever you want to make changes to a channel you first tune to that channel then press menu to enter the menu system then up/down buttons to find what you want to change then menu again to select, when done hit exit. The codes and frequencies are listed in the manual.

Also GMRS is channelized. A channel is a specific frequency. There are two modes, channel mode and frequency mode. When in GMRS channel mode you wish to see what the frequency is push the mode button on the right side of the key pad. That will switch between the two modes. When you begin to program the radio you need to be in channel mode to program for GMRS and Frequency mode for everything else such as police, fire EMS etc for scanning. In your example when on channel RPT-19 push the mode button and you will see 462.650(00).

 

[SteveShannon]

6 hours ago, Sorceress21 said:

I am a 100% nOOb to GMRS but not to radios or tech. No...scratch that, I'm a 200% nOOb at GMRS. Please be kind.

Preamble: I've spent days trying to find answers for this question and have found that there must be some secret squirrel password to learn this platform because every tutorial out there both written and YT all miss critical details and steps. They all assume the basics are already understood which infuriates me ( but that's another conversation because that's not just radios stuff, that's all tuts on the web). I mean c'mon guys, if you're gonna due a tut for absolute beginners then do it on the assumption the viewer is totally unaware of nomenclature and even how to turn the damn thing on.

Repeater setup baffles me and I'm very technically savy. Not in what they do but how to setup this F-ing hunk of Chinese plastic to use one.

Other than that it's a cool radio. No problem talking unit to unit with a friend down the street. Easy peezy Japaneezee. Tune both radios to the same channel and walahh! You can gossip yourself to death about the the HOA and the neighbors right out of the box just like an FRS walkie!

Buuuuuuuuuuttttt Repeaters? No one seems to want to ever include every single setting that needs to be just pretty princess correct to connect to one of these neato lil things.

I want to attempt to connect to this repeater, sooooooooo How? Set what to where and when? I know this one may be offline or out of range, but setting things up for one correctly helps me try others.:

Downlink:	462.650
Uplink:	467.650
Uplink Tone:	141.3
Downlink Tone:	141.3
Travel Tone:	YES
ORI:	YES
County:	Alexander
Owner:	WRJM341
Use:	OPEN
Op Status:	On-Air
Coverage:	25 mi radius.   Assuming I've never turned this radio on before and have never ever even used a two way, but am teach savy, please for the love of all that's holy walk me through this? I do not know what sidebands, Tones or OFFSETS or thingamagigs or whatsagoobers are are so don't give me five simple steps that end with  "If you're in range and as long as your offset is set right and your spatial warp cryptonsporidum-PU39 analyzer matrix field is tuned to the correct anti-matter vibration range with the sub-quantum transducer range set to 1GFYS it'll work"! ARRRRRRGGGGHHHH... Hahaha lol. See where I'm going? I need Repeaters for Dummies, MORON edition, not Geordi LaForge explaining warp physics. If you're gonna help me, please don't leave anything out, even steps you assume anyone that knows how to push a PTT would already know! All the GRMS guides use different nomenclature than all the tuts, that baffles me even more, why? The above example of a Repeater listing uses "Uplink & Downlink" as a term vs. xmit and receive. They all do, but all the tuts just use xmit and receive to explain what to set. So is uplink the same as transmit, downlink the same as xmit which woudl be logical? Ya'll see why I'm confused, the nomenclature never matches the terms used in the YT vids I've watched? Please help and Thank you!

 

 

Since you have said that you can talk to a friend using simplex (that’s when you are both transmitting and receiving on the same frequency) it’s obvious that you know how to turn it on and change channels. 

Yes, an “uplink” tone is the tone you transmit.  It’s also the tone the repeater receives.  Using the term uplink precisely describes that you are transmitting it and the repeater is receiving it.  If the description of the repeater simply said “transmit tone” or “receive tone” then the person using it is sometimes unsure whether they are referring to transmit or receive programmed on the repeater or a users radio.

I would challenge you to use your manual to teach yourself the individual steps necessary to set and clear tones. 

“Tones” are initially confusing, but you’ll learn them in far less time that it would take someone to write step by step instructions for you. Your manual should already show you the steps needed, but here are a few tips that might clear up some confusion:

1. There are lots of terms that refer to exactly the same things.  Tones, PL, and CTCSS all refer to exactly the same thing and are used interchangeably to refer to an analog tone, like a single low note played on a synthesizer, that is combined with your voice transmission.  When the other radio receives your transmission the tone is removed so you never hear it. 

2. DCS, DTCSS, and DPL refer to digital codes that are sometimes used instead of tones.  This refers to a binary value that is transmitted in conjunction with your voice, just like a CTCSS tone.  To make things slightly more confusing they will sometimes be inverted, but they usually tell you.

3. The reason for tones or codes is to allow a radio to ignore a transmission. If someone is transmitting using a 141.3 Hz tone and your receive tone is set to 100.0 Hz, your radio will not reproduce their transmission.  It still receives it; it just doesn’t make it audible. However, if you don’t set a Receive tone, your radio will reproduce everything it receives. 

[MarkInTampa]

Quick down and dirty to at least make it work at least for your example....

Go to repeater channel 19 (displayed as RPT-19)
Press "Menu"
Press the up arrow 10 times (display will show TX-CTCSS)
Press "Menu" again
Use the up arrow to select 141.3
Press "Menu" again to confirm and go back
Press the "Exit" key and you are done.

[WRWE456]

That part is correct but you forgot to explain how to turn the radio on!

[WRWE456]

Here is some more info. Watch the video. If nothing else it will help you understand how the menu system works. There is more info there if you poke around.

https://www.buytwowayradios.com/blog/2023/03/how-to-use-the-channel-wizard-on-the-wouxun-kg-935g-plus-video.html

[Knilc]

I have instructions to contribute here, I just wanted to thank the folks that did. I, too am a confused rookie.

Thanks for shedding some light on this topic.

[WRHS218]

The 935G+ has the Channel Wizard which steps you through the process without having to dive into the menus.