SteveShannon Posted September 18 Author Report Posted September 18 First Hezbollah, a terrorist organization, fears their cell phones are compromised. So, they change over to pagers. 3000 people are wounded and 10-12 killed when they simultaneously explode. Then they change over to “walkie talkies” that they bought because of earlier concerns about secure communications and attend the funerals for people who were killed. Their walkie talkies explode with even more force. I wonder what their next line of backup communications is. They’ve got to be nervous by now. Quote
Lscott Posted September 18 Report Posted September 18 Hummmm..... The radio looks suspiciously like the IC-V85. https://rigreference.com/storage/manuals/icom/IC-V85_ham_brochure.pdf--5baad248bbbf77.42163411.pdf https://icomuk.co.uk/files/icom/PDF/productManual/IC-V85.pdf The tag isn't that readable but it looks like the model number is IC-XXX, a 3 character model number. The antenna port is on the side shown in the photo. Plus it seems to be a BNC type which is only on much older radios. I'm guessing the top part of the antenna is broken off leaving just the base screwed on to the BNC connector. The rubber side port cover looks the same. You can just make out two tiny nubs that fit into the two pin connector on the side. Also the strap holding is the same style. There is a notch in the chassis that likely mates up with the battery pack connections. Seems to be similar too. All I can say is it looks close. Look at the diagrams in the user manual and you'll see other similarity. Anybody have a better guess? Quote
Lscott Posted September 18 Report Posted September 18 52 minutes ago, SteveShannon said: wonder what their next line of backup communications is. They could try these. SteveShannon 1 Quote
SteveShannon Posted September 18 Author Report Posted September 18 39 minutes ago, Lscott said: Hummmm..... The radio looks suspiciously like the IC-V85. https://rigreference.com/storage/manuals/icom/IC-V85_ham_brochure.pdf--5baad248bbbf77.42163411.pdf https://icomuk.co.uk/files/icom/PDF/productManual/IC-V85.pdf The tag isn't that readable but it looks like the model number is IC-XXX, a 3 character model number. The antenna port is on the side shown in the photo. Plus it seems to be a BNC type which is only on much older radios. I'm guessing the top part of the antenna is broken off leaving just the base screwed on to the BNC connector. The rubber side port cover looks the same. You can just make out two tiny nubs that fit into the two pin connector on the side. Also the strap holding is the same style. There is a notch in the chassis that likely mates up with the battery pack connections. Seems to be similar too. All I can say is it looks close. Look at the diagrams in the user manual and you'll see other similarity. Anybody have a better guess? I don't have a better idea, but the IC-V85 looks too short and squat to me. Quote
WRXB215 Posted September 18 Report Posted September 18 Ah, so THIS is what the CH. 15 bug was all about. SteveShannon and Raybestos 1 1 Quote
Davichko5650 Posted September 18 Report Posted September 18 2 hours ago, SteveShannon said: First Hezbollah, a terrorist organization, fears their cell phones are compromised. So, they change over to pagers. They didn't go the landline Fax machine method like Osama? One reason it was a lengthy hunt for that cat! SteveShannon 1 Quote
JoCoBrian Posted September 18 Report Posted September 18 I can't begin to tell you how disappointed I was to find out the exploding ray-diddy-o's weren't Baofeng or Quansheng... SteveShannon 1 Quote
WRYZ926 Posted September 18 Report Posted September 18 I will have to see if I can find the article again about the radios. They were evidently clones of a discontinued Icom radio. Quote
SteveShannon Posted September 19 Author Report Posted September 19 15 minutes ago, WRYZ926 said: I will have to see if I can find the article again about the radios. They were evidently clones of a discontinued Icom radio. The picture on CBS nightly news was of pieces but along the top it said VHF radio Quote
WRYZ926 Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 Some articles said the radios were Icom's and at least one said they were a clone of discontinued Icom radios. Quote
SteveShannon Posted September 19 Author Report Posted September 19 7 minutes ago, WRYZ926 said: Some articles said the radios were Icom's and at least one said they were a clone of discontinued Icom radios. Glad I have Yaesus. WRYZ926 and Davichko5650 2 Quote
Lscott Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 5 hours ago, SteveShannon said: 6 hours ago, Lscott said: I don't have a better idea, but the IC-V85 looks too short and squat to me. That’s what I thought too. Need a good photo reference collection to look through for potential better matches. SteveShannon 1 Quote
Lscott Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 From some news reports it’s claimed the radios are Icom IC-V82’s. Or a fake clone of that model. http://www.icombj.com/download/brochure/IC-V82_U82.pdf SteveShannon 1 Quote
SteveShannon Posted September 19 Author Report Posted September 19 That looks right and the IC-V82 has the option of being converted to digital which would make it addressable. Quote
Lscott Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 10 minutes ago, SteveShannon said: That looks right and the IC-V82 has the option of being converted to digital which would make it addressable. However in one photo the front doesn’t match the brochure. Of course there is nothing saying they are all using the same model. I did find a source where some image processing was done on the label to get a better view of the model number. SteveShannon 1 Quote
Lscott Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 Here are links to the manuals. https://ia801600.us.archive.org/34/items/icom-1f70f2/IC-V82_U82.pdf https://manualmachine.com/icom/icv82/7762010-service-manual/ SteveShannon 1 Quote
WRQC527 Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 Anytone had a series of radios under various names, most notably these two. Knowing what I do now about exploding HTs. I don't think I'll be seeking them out on the used market. Can't be too careful. https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product?id=12231 https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product?id=12926 Quote
WRQC527 Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 1 hour ago, Lscott said: From some news reports it’s claimed the radios are Icom IC-V82’s. Or a fake clone of that model. http://www.icombj.com/download/brochure/IC-V82_U82.pdf That's an Icom IC-V8. https://www.rigpix.com/icom/icv8.htm Lscott 1 Quote
Lscott Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 5 hours ago, WRQC527 said: That's an Icom IC-V8. https://www.rigpix.com/icom/icv8.htm Good id! Quote
Lscott Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 5 hours ago, WRQC527 said: Knowing what I do now about exploding HTs. I don't think I'll be seeking them out on the used market. Can't be too careful. Oops. I just purchased a second Icom from a seller in the Middle East. Now at least I have two identical radios. The digital mode is almost unheard of here. It’s widely used in Europe. https://forums.mygmrs.com/gallery/image/500-ic-f3162dt-front-and-back-sidepng/ Quote
WRQC527 Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 I shamelessly copied this from a Yahoo! article this morning. “I can guarantee you they were not our products,” said Ray Novak, a senior sales manager for Icom’s amateur radio division, in an interview Wednesday at a trade show in Providence, Rhode Island. Novak said Icom introduced the V-82 model more than two decades ago and it has long since been discontinued. It was designed for amateur radio operators and for use in social or emergency communications, including by people tracking tornadoes or hurricanes". SteveShannon and WRUU653 2 Quote
Lscott Posted September 19 Report Posted September 19 3 hours ago, WRQC527 said: I shamelessly copied this from a Yahoo! article this morning. “I can guarantee you they were not our products,” said Ray Novak, a senior sales manager for Icom’s amateur radio division, in an interview Wednesday at a trade show in Providence, Rhode Island. Novak said Icom introduced the V-82 model more than two decades ago and it has long since been discontinued. It was designed for amateur radio operators and for use in social or emergency communications, including by people tracking tornadoes or hurricanes". Could be that somebody found a stash of NOS, new old stock, radios and sold them cheap. So it could still be the real product. Stuff like this shows up frequently on the Internet for sale. The two dPMR Icom radios I just purchased were exactly that, NOS. https://www.ebay.com/itm/176042045136?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D273572%26meid%3Dfe82695556ef49c49ba4de76ff1ad7d7%26pid%3D101949%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D176042045136%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2WithMLRV6RankerPricelessTop30Features%26brand%3DIcom&_trksid=p4375194.c101949.m162918&_trkparms=parentrq%3A0b1caf4e1920aab15d09d582ffffdf46|pageci%3A2410f570-76a4-11ef-a163-4a97914dfa9b|iid%3A1|vlpname%3Avlp_homepage So if these are really clone rip-offs of Icom's design, as was suggested, have these shown up anywhere else in the world? Last possibility is the Israelis had a stock of these in a warehouse they were never going to use and heard that Hezbollah was in the market for buying cheap two-way radios. So, they doctored them up a bit and sold them through a middle man to hide the source. SteveShannon and WRXB215 2 Quote
Lscott Posted September 20 Report Posted September 20 17 minutes ago, LeoG said: More like CNN’s credibility just exploded. I can see them being this stupid and air something like this. WRXB215 1 Quote
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