CP200 Radio Programming

[gimbal]

Hi all, 

I have a few Motorola Radius CP200 radios, left over from a transport business I used to have.  I want to reprogram them for GMRS use.  I have a business account with Motorola, and I am able to get software from them for my newer radios, but am having trouble finding the software to program these older radios.  Does anyone have any suggestion on where I could find this somewhere?

Thx! J

 

[Socalgmrs]

There is a guy on eBay that if you buy his cables he will send you needed software.  May have to have an older computer.  

[Radioguy7268]

Motorola moved all the current model software over to a new website. For most folks, that's at myview.motorolasolutions.com.  Unless you want to go through all the steps to migrate your account over to Myview, only to find that they probably don't have the legacy # RVN4191 CP200 software ( I myself haven't checked lately), you're better off to do a google search and try find it on the web. The benefit there is that you would likely find a version that's been hacked to allow wideband. The last versions of the analog CP200/PR400 R05.18 software were narrowband only, and most GMRS folks want the ability to program 25kHz wideband.

Note: the more recent CP200d is a different animal, and uses different software for programming.

 

[gimbal]

Thanks, 

I have gotten the cables and the software for the radios, and have had some success programming them.

I have 2 CP200's and one CP200d.  

The CP200d is fully programmed, with no issues.  I had to use CPS 2.0, and get a wideband entitlement, no problems there.

The CP200's are programmed, and are functioning, but only on narrowband.  When I try to change the bandwidth to 20kHz, I have problems.  First it tells me that I need to get the 20/25kHz entitlement key.  I have one, and it worked for the CP200d, so I go to the 'register application features' option, and put in the key.  Then it tells me that it can't reach the  license server.  I'm not sure what the issue is.  This is using CPS_NA_R05.18.  The computer can connect to the internet with no issues.

Any ideas on what I need to do to get the wideband entitlement validated?

EDIT:          AAANNNDDD....

Got it!  I finally found a copy of CPS_NA_R05.16 and was able to program these with wideband.

 

Yay!

 

[Radioguy7268]

Glad to hear you got it fixed up.  The wideband entitlement issue is troublesome, as Motorola is no longer supporting older 'legacy' software, and the EID's only work on the newest, current software.  Otherwise, you are left with trying to hex edit the software & bypass the built in checks that forced narrowband in the newer software versions. 

As you discovered, R05.16 was the last legit version that allowed CP200's to be programmed wideband with 25kHz.

[nokones]

It is inevitable that narrowband emissions will be mandatory for Parts 95 and 97 freqs. It is not if it is when.

It happened to Part 90 freqs with very minimal complaints. The complaint of the audio not sounding like stereophonic quality audio is not a valid complaint if you still can clearly hear the audio, which you can.

[Lscott]

1 hour ago, nokones said:

It is inevitable that narrowband emissions will be mandatory for Parts 95 and 97 freqs. It is not if it is when.

Maybe for Part 95, but I doubt it for Part 97.

I'm waiting to see if the FCC might move to allowing digital voice on GMRS. Yeah, some hate the idea, but it happening now more or less unofficially. If the practice becomes more wide spread the FCC will do another FRS thing where FRS users failed to get GMRS licenses when using those combo radios sold at the time. They'll just throw in the towel and make it official, with some level of regulation, so they won't have to deal with the enforcement issue.