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And since repeaters and HTs aren’t listed my mobile mounted in the house isn’t a base station. Rather it is a mobile at rest.

I'm looking for a way to help test my rt97s. I've been looking at this surecom sr112 simplex repeater. It records and plays back your transmission. It has a DTMF encoder to enable or disable or otherwise make changes. It can even be set to play back prerecorded messages at predetermined intervals so it seems like it could be used to identify a repeater if so desired, however I don't think I would do that just because it ties up a repeater channel even when it's not in use. It seems like a guy could fashion the correct RS232 interface cable. Set it to sleep mode 99% of the time. Use DTMF to activate it, make your test, then turn it back off. It's basically a repeater controller. It relies on a separate transceiver. A retevis rt97s is basically that. You just need the correct cable. I doubt they have one, I would have to make one. Shouldn't be too difficult. What say you?

Sweeeeeet! On mine (always programmed via the software) I found a tone issue too. In my case several re-writes to the radio didn't fix it. It stayed absent. All other tones were there. I found that I needed to delete the Code plug line (for the fault channel) and simply re-enter the details again for that channel only. All great now. I really like the DB20. Best Regards!

Really? What else could we possibly talk about? I think it is a well thought out question that got an extremely thought out and well composed answer. I know it doesn't fit the normal theme of ganging up on newbies asking the same old questions that they could easy find by doing a search. After all, we're discussing GMRS and we've reached the limit of all things GMRS.

When my wife see's a delivery for me ffrm Atlantic, she automatically knows it's batteries

Don't worry about it... registering is not mandatory nor is un-regestering..

Must be programmed on a computer via software. On and off is menu 14 I’d bet it’s in the software you have. If not does chirp support this radio? Rt systems? I don’t know.

I don't know if that is the only benefit, but is sure is a good one. Most people don't monitor those frequencies since they are most commonly used for repeater inputs. You end up with a much less crowed channel. Now that you mention it... is there an OTC type approved radio that is configured to transmit simplex on the 467 mains (maybe a KG-1000?), or do we have to use reconfigured LMR radios?

Errrgggg. Such stupid stuff people like to bring up for nothing. What about using a repeaters hand mic to talk as a base station. Omg my head blew up. Can we get back to people wanting to be spoon fead information?

My local repeater now requires an ANI.ID number in order to use it. My BF GM-15PRO has a menu to program the four-digit number, but I cannot change the factory 12345 already written to the radio. No button changes the numbers. Please help. The Radiooddity software does not show a way to program the numbers either.

Nothing better in life than a good woman at your side. I had to go through quite a few bad ones to finally find mine. I can't believe I actually thought I knew what love was before her.

Katie and I share an interest in 2 way radios. She was EMS and came into our relationship carrying a fancy Bendix King. We have cute code names for each other and use our radios every day. It's enough to make normal people sick.

Too late... you're committed now!

Related: Is there a IGNORE THREAD option?

A mobile radio that sits on your desktop and has a power supply is NOT necessarily a Base Station. As Marc eloquently stated above, it's the operation that counts, not the configuration. A Base radio operates on the lower 462.xxx frequencies. A Control station may appear very similar to a Base, but a Control Station transmits on the 467.xxx frequencies, and listens on the lower (base side) of the pair.

Zero pressure from me... I just hope its a useful tool for you.

I have a request that has been sitting for months. It's still there even after the owner removed the repeater from the listings. LOL

Y'all are all welcome to operate under your own interpretations, just don't expect to me to follow it. Caveat emptor.

I have tried to explain this before, at least the way I understand it... the station type is defined by its use. This is why you never ask cops for advice. You need to consult lawyers and judges. The rule very specifically says that a base station is a station at a fixed location that communicates directly with mobile stations and other base stations. Therefore, the act of using a station to communicate through a repeater changes the 'station type' to a Control station. A Control station is a station at a fixed location that communicates with mobile stations and other control stations through repeater stations, and may also be used to control the operation of repeater stations. So, using a radio at your home to communicate through a repeater is not a rule violation. The only defined hardware type is a Mobile radio, with handheld radios being a sub-type, with the definitions as follows: Mobile station. A station, intended to be used while in motion or during halts at unspecified locations, that communicates directly with base stations and other mobile stations, and with control stations and other mobile stations through repeater stations. Hand-held portable unit. A physically small mobile station that can be operated while being held in the operator's hand. All other references are to station types, which are defined by how they are used... for example: Base station. A station at a fixed location that communicates directly with mobile stations and other base stations. Control station. A station at a fixed location that communicates with mobile stations and other control stations through repeater stations, and may also be used to control the operation of repeater stations. Fixed station. A station at a fixed location that directly communicates with other fixed stations only. Personal Radio Services station. Any transmitter, with or without an incorporated antenna or receiver, which is certified by the FCC to be operated in one or more of the Personal Radio Services. Repeater station. A station in a fixed location used to extend the communications range of mobile stations, hand-held portable units and control stations by receiving their signals on one channel (the input channel) and simultaneously retransmitting these signals on another channel (the output channel), typically with higher transmitting power from a favorable antenna location (typically high above the surrounding terrain). You will notice that even a repeater is defined by the job it does, rather than physical characteristics. That is because you can easily build a repeater with 2 mobile radios, as an example.

The omission of base station from the allowed types for 467 MHz main channels is not an oversight, it's policy. Not what we would like but that's how it is. The Licensing Division advises that this is not an oversight. Repeaters (or mobile relay stations) by definition extend the communication range of mobile and handheld units. And folks, that means thousands of users are breaking the rule, despite how they try to rationalize it.

The official response is not very informative. Besides again quoting the definition in the regs, this is it with only slightly different wording: Fixed Stations are any stations at a fixed location that communicate with other stations at a fixed location. As far as I can tell, that could mean base to base for normal conversation, however that limits power to 15W where a base can do up to 50. The only benefit I can see is fixed stations are allowed to use 467 MHz main channels in simplex mode. I'll address repeater use in another topic.

Heh. My wife doesn't necessarily participate, but finds them useful at times. She didn't really say anything after she saw my last purchase order other than "that's a lot of money" then walked away and didn't mention it again.

I don't have a BTECH UV-50X3 Tri Band but was using one BTECH GMRS-50V2 as a base and one in my vehicle. I ended up swapping the base unit out for a KG-1000G Plus and have been extremely happy with its performance. I'm located on the outskirts of town (~25 miles away from center) so the additional receive capabilities is noticeable. In fact, I had to start using the receive tones on a couple of the repeaters that I use due to picking up so much distant simplex traffic. Didn't have that with the BTECH. Anyway, glad I had an extra radio because the BTECH in my vehicle quit transmitting. It has been sent in for replacement. The second one (that had been my base unit) is now in my vehicle and so far, doing well. All 3 of these radios showed good power output (until the one BTECH failed) but, if I had to do it again, I would have 2 of the KG-1000G Plus radios. I may still get another KG-1000G Plus although I work from home and don't go mobile all that often anymore.

I sure am. She makes me a sandwich every work day and dinner every night.

Seems he wants help when he wants it but isn’t interested in giving it. The snarky “40 years using radios” yet ask for help that won’t reveal any info on what he did wrong that might be helpful for others is telling. As much as I hate the term (I feel it’s over used), what we have here is a bonafide Sad Ham. Some people are gatekeepers and just take. Oh well.