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Right now it's a toss up between the Retevis RT3S(well within my budget)is a 2 package deal Airiton DM-168(Anytone AT-D168UV) which is $60 over budget BUT I'm getting 2 radios at basically the same price that 2 RT3S's would cost.

Saw these on Amazon. Basically an Anytone D168UV clone. 2 radios for less than 1 Anytone. Wonder if they'd be any good? https://www.amazon.com/Airiton-DM-168-Reduction-Batteries-Programming/dp/B0DXVH5SJL https://www.amazon.com/Handheld-AT-D168UV-Rechargeable-Programming-Encryption/dp/B0DY7Q2JJL

If it's a USB port then it'll be automatic most likely. Not a true com port, just a virtual.

If you took what I said as me being a "condescending a-hole" and further went on to extrapolate that I "in real life" am "beat up by [my] bosses, wives and probably kids (assuming [I] have any)," well, the only thing I can say is that it seems like you are the one who is "deeply frustrated." I hope the search for the belt clip is fruitful. I'll be disengaging from this thread moving forward.

Uh...I'm not even sure how to respond to this so I'll just agree that your mileage may indeed vary. I'm not sure how what position on the spectrum one occupies comes into this conversation, at all, and I certain didn't "bully" anyone.

@MarkInTampa’s tip nailed it!! So then, which DMR HT are you going to try next? Did I previously suggest the TYT-MD-UV390 with OpenGD77 pre-installed from LetsGetReadyRadios: https://letsgetreadyinc.com/opengd390plus

Watch out that you don't twist your ankle hopping off of that soapbox.

Well, I certainly agree with this.

On the Radtel RT3s(that I'm returning) I had to use my Talkpod A36 Plus cable with my Linux computer running WINE and it worked fine but the Radtel CPS did let me pick a COM port.

Okay, lemme chime in. First, forums are designed for HUMAN INTERACTION so pointing to search engine is plain stupid. Since I had a career in IT I am confident that I can use search engines way better than the moron who pointed me to google. Next, do I want to share my questions with the Google corporation? Also, why would amaff OffRoaderX and Northcutt114 want to be condescending a-holes to a person they don't even know? Would it be because they have a need to lash out on the Internet because that is the only place they can huff, puff and try to look "tough" because in real life they are beat up by their bosses, wives and probably kids (assuming they have any)! The key thing is that they actually have nothing to contribute to, no personal experience worth sharing, just a urge to act like a pompous ass because they are deeply frustrated. As I said, there is at least one in each group. For example on Facebook the folks are exceptionally nasty in almost every group. Discord is much better, I suppose that rather than boomers there are more young, happier, folks over there. I think that in our societies such manners are frowned upon so, say, in a store these folks would be very polite. Behind the wheel some of them would already get unhinged (road rage), and in the Internet they feel total impunity for acting like petulant teens. I guess dealing with folks firmly pegged to the left side of an IQ bell curve is inevitable. The only way to avoid that would be to create fora which test for intelligence before accepting a member, but that would obviously not be acceptable as there are plenty of kind and friendly people with low IQ. So how to get rid of the dumb AND hostile is the question which, so far, nobody has managed to solve, which is too bad. Anyway - WRYS709 please accept my apologies for misreading your comment! Cheers

Bingo.

okay, I misread your comment, my bad and my apologies! I strike-through my previous comment

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The TYT TH-9800 seems to have more issues that other TYT radios. I have a couple of TYT TH-7800 dual band radios that have not had any issues. I agree that you should contact the seller about your issues. There is an issue with your radio. Now while RG58 is working for you, RG8 and LMR400 (or equivalent) will work better. If your coax run is 60 feet then your ERP -effective radiating power is going to be around 48 watts. Here is the line loss per 100 feet of coax and ERP for 60 feet of coax for the 2m band RG58 - 70% 48 watts RG8 - 44% 70 watts LMR400 - 32% 79 watts Same numbers but for the 70cm band RG58 - 90% 25 watts RG8 - 66% 52 watts LMR400 - 48% 67 watts Same numbers for GMRS repeater frequencies RG58 - 91% 27 watts RG8 - 67% 50 watts LMR400 - 49% 66 watts I used the https://kv5r.com/ham-radio/coax-loss-calculator/ to get those numbers. I used an SWR of 1.7 and antenna gain of 3 dBd. A higher gain antenna will have a higher ERP. You really are doing yourself a disfavor by using RG58. Stay away from the cheap junk coax from Amazon and eBay. Buy the best quality coax that you can afford.

If I had to guess it's probably like my TYT MD-380 since the RT3S is a rebranded TYT MD-UV380 (newer/dual band version of the MD-380). There is NO com port to choose from in the CPS and also uses a different programming cable than a Wouxun/Kenwood style HT does even though they look the same. Make sure you have the right cable. In Windows device manager it will not show as a com port, it will show (after driver installation) under "Universal Serial Bus devices" as a "Digital Radio in USB mode".

No malls anywhere near me, but there is a Dollar General within range. They don't use radios, though; they just yell across the store.

Yeah it is a lot of button pushing. Lol but i was able to get through it. I worked in the fire service for 27 years and we use king radios for wildland fires. Now you want to talk about a messed up radio when it comes to programming good god, lol. So I was able to get through the rugged radio after a couple of trys. Not that ill ever use the flash light on the ht but holy crap you have to almost put in your social security number and a credit card to turn it on lol. But I got them programed. I still like the radio though actually its a solid build and feels good innit hand. Doest feel like it will come apart if you drop it. Ok great yeah I didn't have to worry about any offsets on those or my mobile a midland mtx275.

A big part of my YouTube channel is showing stuff I like so folks can get an idea of what something is like before they buy it. I guess you could say I recommend stuff to people all the time.

Is there?? When the OP or question poster indicates he has autism, for example, which has happened here before? You would rather debate the metadata rather than just being silent, not posting anything and letting those of us who like to do the research, answer the question?!? I don’t look behind to the motive of the questioner; if I can help, I do. If I can’t, I move on to the next thread. But I never bully the questioner for asking the question. I guess YMMV!

You misunderstood my point: give me a link to a YouTube video answering my question and I am a Happy Camper!! Suggesting simply “YouTube,” not so much!!

You’re sure welcome. I hope you love it. I’m always nervous recommending a product because everyone sees things differently.

I kind of "use" Windoze too via WINE. I generally set it to Win10 which seems to work pretty well. I'll take a chance then and order it once the refund from the DM-1701 hits. Thanks.