I'm not disagreeing with you there. That seems to be normal behavior in the real world. There are dozens of repeaters near me that are open for public use and only 2 of them self-ID (both in 20wpm CW). The issue is, legally, the statute regulation is very plain language. If its my repeater, me and my immediate family use the repeater... no need for the repeater to ID. If another licensee uses my repeater, than the repeater must ID with my station identification. The only legal exception I can think of would be a grandfathered GMRS station license. If a Trust holds a license and the Trust bi-laws states that anyone who uses the repeater is formally a beneficiary of the trust while using the repeater, than there would be no ID requirement. (All purely hypothetical, BTW... just thinking about a legal exemption.) Just a little understanding of why I am saying what I am saying. I studied Constitutional Law for 7 year (2 in college and 5 years of independent study) and I have spent years helping both write pro-2a Bills and fight anti-2a legislation. I am looking at it purely from a statutory prospective based on my training and experience. That said, the FCC has the discretion to prosecute or not. If laws are widely broken or those infractions are largely ignored by law enforcement, that doesn't make it legal, from a statutory standpoint. A great example would be CB radio. Maximum legal power on AM is the mean carrier power must not exceed 4 watts and its strictly prohibited to use any external amplifier of any kind. That is the statute. In reality, I don't know a single person who owns a CB that is running less than 30 watts without an amp and less than 200 watts with an amp. Most CB operators I know have amps that are well over 2,000 watts. Thousands of people are talking DX for 1,500 - 2,500 miles, every single day on CB. Yet there is no known FCC enforcement that I am aware of, on any of these people who violate the law, and its all the same people for decades. That doesn't mean its legal. It just means the FCC is ignoring it, for the most part.