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Yeah, I was thinking about knife edge refraction as well as troposcatter.

I think you are on the right track, when it come to pointing out the conflicting rules. However, The courts wouldn't look at this from a Constitutional Rights violation. If someone ends up in court over it, there is a good possibility that the argument will be over what the definition of "is" is... if you get my meaning.

Kirk may have broken a Forum record for being on the most ignore lists since its inception.

I mean, the definitions are so confusing that it could inadvertently be the case, if the receiver and transmitter are two separate devices connected by any cable. LoL. The only saving grace would be in the PRS rules stating that wirelinking at the same physical location is exempt.

I'm sure someone is going to point out that none of this is in the FCC PRS and/or GMRS rules... and I am aware. That said. it looks like you need to be a lawyer to decipher this stuff. It doesn't help when the FCC doesn't define things like "wireline control link". The only place I can find that the FCC specifically mention a "control link" is in 47 CFR § 97.213 - Telecommand of an amateur station. It says "A control link using a fiber optic cable or another telecommunication service is considered wireline." This is the definition the FCC provides for "telecommunication". Telecommunication Any transmission, emission or reception of signs, signals, writings, images and sounds or intelligence of any nature by wire, radio, optical or other electromagnetic systems. Common Carrier In the telecommunications arena, the term used to describe a telephone company. Network Any connection of two or more computers that enables them to communicate. Networks may include transmission devices, servers, cables, routers and satellites. The phone network is the total infrastructure for transmitting phone messages. Telecommand The use of telecommunication for the transmission of signals to initiate, modify or terminate functions of equipment at a distance. Citations: https://www.fcc.gov/general/glossary-telecommunications-terms https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/2.1 https://www.fcc.gov/wireline-competition https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/97.213

Dickey Bell, as a Trail, went through the rehab and is in fantastic condition. However, Little Daniel is really washed out a lot compared to my trip in 2021. A lot of those out-croppings are extremely more difficult. I would say more difficult than any part of the topside of 390/Daniel. People with 3.5" of lift and 37" tires were taking 7 to 10 minutes to make it to the top. With my Jeep being on 4.5" long-arm with 40's, it was a walk in the park. less than 2 minutes.

Unfortunately. On the first pass, I was wedged in the notch I stead of the passenger front being on top of it, and the tire slipped off the wall. I'll have a video that includes the slip and fall posted in a week or so. I'll share it if you're interested.

First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and ...

@TrikeRadio Great question, BTW. Even if we have no intent on doing it, it's always fun to try to think through stuff like that. Sometimes, the 'what if' is very entertaining.

As Steve mentioned, there are some regulations preventing repeaters from transmitting on the 8 input channels. All repeaters can only transmit on the frequencies associated with channels 15 through 22. With that said, there are no restrictions on with input frequencies can be used... there is no law or rule requiring a specif frequency pairing. The only way I am aware to RF link GMRS repeaters while staying in the GMRS service is to use any GMRS frequency other than the 8 traditional repeater inputs as an input for each relay point. Now, here is where you may run into issues. Anything not explicitly denied is allowed. Since there are no laws or rule prohibiting the methods I mentioned, you can do it legally and within scope of the rules... BUT, depending on the User population in those repeater areas, you will P!$$0ff a ton of people. I would expect complaints to be filed. I say this because, instead of tying up one channel for one repeater, you are going to be using 2, 3, or possibly even 4 or more channels for a GMRS service based RF linked system. Now, if the FCC really wanted to be hard on someone, they could call it an RF network and try to prohibit the action under the "any other network" clause, even though its not a routed network. That's where having deep pockets for a lawyer would come in handy. Edit: I forgot to mention, due to the type of duplexers and filtering needed, this would be extremely expensive to build.

Randy!!! That was supposed to be private. No beard touching tonight!

That is the nicest compliment I have gotten in months!

A little something from this weekend...

No worries. I appreciate that. I love the service too. I'm just a little tired. Just got home from a huge offroad trip to to Uwharrie and need a nap. LoL Im definitely looking forward to meeting you. It's always great to meet someone passionate about the hobby and making new friends.

That would be awesome! PM me next time you’re heading over and I'll try to swing by.

Im tired of arguing with strangers on the internet. Im not going to get any further into it. If you're genuinely interested and in my area, join ARES, show up in person for some training events and actually show up to support an agency activation, and you can see how everything works.

You're welcome to believe whatever you would like.

Yes... I completely agree with your opinion. That's why when I started the IPT, I recruited multiple people who have actually done this specific task before. Hire the right people for the job, is my best bet.

Im not sure about citation, but I am an Amateur Radio Emergency Service (ARES) assistant emergency coordinator in one county, an ARES operator another county, support the state and DHS regionally and we use both amateur radio and FRS/GMRS to assist the government in their operations as SOP. Not everyday or every event, but when we have unlicensed volunteers or government employees that need to speak directly to operators, we usually stuff an FRS radio in their hand, as an example.

I studied constitutional law and the founding and framing of the US. That doesn't mean I know everything about everything.

The thing I hear the most is "you're not a real Ham if you don't know CW." And my favorite is the guy on the repeater saying "I only operate on CW.", but 10 minutes before that he was (on the repeater) bragging about making 3,000 contacts on FT8 last night. LoL

The real answer is no, but I'm sure he'll make some BS up, or tell you to do your own research. Sadly, I will never know his answer, as he is on my ignore list

That sucks to see. Depending on the state, he can be looking at jail time for that stunt.

The information above is technically accurate, but should we caveat that for the woods? Since the forest isn't consistent in density, levels of foliage change, the amount of water in the trees vary, etc. actual results may vary.

We were doing that for our friend Roland, too. We appended his REACT number to our call signs at the end of our conversations... like WRAB123 43. I agree it's a nice gesture.