SteveShannon

Hans, I hope you don’t leave. Although I didn’t agree with your initial conclusion I don’t mind discussing the issue. People should be adult enough to ignore subjects they believe have run their course. Steve

I disagree. There’s really no need for us to be shy about asking questions and making reasonable requests of the FCC.

The operative word there is Stations . People are not stations. If I receive a message on my GMRS station, that’s the end of the communication as far as the FCC is concerned. If I then transmit a message on my amateur radio station to another amateur radio station that’s a new message. The FCC has almost no interest in the actual message; they only regulate the airwaves (there are some kinds of messages that they prohibit but they’re prohibited from being transmitted via radio stations in the first place.) It’s absurd to think that I cannot relate information that I heard on one service (whilst following the rules) using another service for which I am licensed. But this would certainly be an easy question to ask of the FCC: “If I hear something during a GMRS communication, may I repeat it on a different service for which I am also licensed as long as the content of the message is not prohibited?”

If it helps, here is the definition of one-way communications within the personal services (Part 95) One-way communications. Communications where information always flows in one pre-arranged direction through a communications channel. and here’s the definition for two-way communications: Two-way communications. Communications where information flows in both directions through a communications channel, either simultaneously (duplex operation) or alternately (simplex operation).

But with GMRS you’re going out of service. Operating split with hams who have different allocations is within the same service.

I disagree on two counts. First, you’re not an idiot. Second, any time you transmit without an expectation of a response that’s a one-way transmission. That’s why the regulations go into so much detail about which one-way messages are allowed: 97.111 (b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized elsewhere in this part, an amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way communications: (1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station; (2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing two-way communications with other stations; (3) Telecommand; (4) Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications; (5) Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving proficiency in, the international Morse code; and (6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins. (7) Transmissions of telemetry. Having a conversation with a GMRS station consists of two one way transmissions, not two way communications.

@LeoG @WRKC935’s analysis above is excellent. I’m go8ng to mark if somehow so I can find it again. What’s your roofing material? What are your doors made of? You can have the walls wrapped entirely with aluminum siding, but given the regular glass window panes and possible door materials and very small wavelength of GMRS the siding might not matter as much as one might expect.

Prohibited: 1733 (b) GMRS stations must not be used for one-way communications other than those listed in § 95.1731(b). Initial transmissions to establish two-way communications and data transmissions listed in § 95.1731(d) are not considered to be one-way communications for the purposes of this section. and 1731(b) says this: (b) One-way communications. The operator of a GMRS station may use that station to transmit one-way communications: (1) To call for help or transmit other emergency communications; (2) To provide warnings of hazardous road conditions to travelers; or, (3) To make brief test transmissions. But no rules prohibit relaying messages received on one service by using another service. So you and I could have a conversation on GMRS and I could then have a conversation on 2 meters with Gil @WRUU653 operating as KO6BIK and I could relay the message to him.

Make sure you load the right driver before plugging in the cable. The driver creates the comm port.

He received a citation for failing to report an accident. And his insurance completely paid for my repairs and nearly a month long car rental.

For years Wikipedia said that channel 20 is the national calling channel for GMRS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mobile_Radio_Service scroll down to the channel table

Except for the sticky part, here you go: channels 1-22 uses: talk to someone channels 23-30 uses: talk to someone farther away through a repeater.

I think you already solved the mystery. The TOT is set too short. TOT causes the unit to time out when transmitting.

Yes, that makes perfect sense. If you transmit longer than the TOT, the radio will stop transmitting. I think I have mine set to 3 minutes. It’s a handy setting for a repeater (sometimes keeps a windbag like me from finishing a story) but it’s not terribly useful on a mobile radio.

That shouldn’t be too hot at all unless there’s some kind of problem on the board.

I’m guessing it was invented by a wife whose husband doesn’t pay attention.

At least the cans that carry spam are labeled. (Even I groaned.)

Does it look like the entire unit shuts down or does it just stop transmitting? What’s the current capacity on your power supply?

Run it at medium power and see if it continues. At medium power the db20g only gets warm. Your radio should only get hot when you’re transmitting on high power. Too hot would be too hot to touch. As long as you can rest your hand on the radio it’s probably fine. Most people listen more than they transmit.

That was already taken by a wiser person.

No, we are unlikely to settle this debate, regardless of how many times the question is asked. But there are lots of other posts about it. Line A is one reason. 12 million people live above Line A and thus are prohibited from using 19. Second, GMRS really isn’t used by most people to “call out on”. It’s primarily for use between people who know each other while pursuing other activities. It works very well for that. Don’t worry, you didn’t start the debate. It just has some dormant periods. Welcome to the forum!

Yes, and transmitting using the tone (or code) required by the repeater.

No, if you transmit on a simplex channel the repeater will not hear it.

Transmissions on the simplex channel will be heard on both the simplex channel and the repeater channel. But a transmission from the radio set to the repeater channel will not be heard directly on the radio set to the simplex channel.

That’s right. Premium members have unlimited reactions. I don’t know what the reaction limit is for standard members. But as I recall it’s not midnight to midnight. Maybe it’s based on Zulu time? Anyway in the afternoon or evening I was able to add more reactions.