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17 minutes ago, wayoverthere said:
If I were shopping a gmrs handheld now, either the 905 or 935 would be the killer choice. At the time I bought in, the 805g was one of the very few repeater capable 95e handhelds on the market (excluding lmr gear)
I think I studied for a week on what I wanted. I'm wanting to purchase an Amateure Band radio. Got any ideas. I want something with a great receive end. Kenwood TM-V71A dual band 144/440. Familiar with?
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On 1/20/2022 at 1:26 PM, PartsMan said:
The DIY channels have the TX frequency locked. I can change the RX (not sure why anyone would) and the tones.
Question... where do you go to find if any upgrades of firmware for my rig. Is it normally on the manufacturers site?
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On 1/20/2022 at 11:40 AM, wayoverthere said:
I have the same issue with my BTech 50x1. Lots of free channels, but they're all rx only. I seem to remember reading something that indicated that level of lockdown made the certification process easier and/or quicker.
I appreciate wouxun's design allowing all the tx channels you want that are in-bounds for gmrs.
I have the Wouxon 935 and it allows plenty of memory to allow for this. Scan the VFO frequencies and pick what you want and save.
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Just wondering if anyone was aware of any unlisted open repeaters in the Lonoke County, AR. I see the Vilonia600 listed ( roughly 30 miles away. Lots of hills from me to it, but was checking more for my area. Thanks in advance.
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43 minutes ago, MichaelLAX said:
While I was out at an appointment, looks like you got some great responses!
IT's coming along MichaelLAX. THanks!! Now I'm pondering. I'm studying for the Technician license now and trying to decide whether I spend on a GMRS mobile/base or go ahead and get a dual band. I would like to get both. I have been researching just how much wattage I can get by with for a GMRS mobile/base and still hit a repeater around Approx 30 miles. I see a lot of reviews on 5 watts HT reaching them, but that is with a good line of sight and high Antenna.. We shall see..........Thanks again for the info on my previous issue.
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I have not checked every tone, but I did tone-scan about 10 transmitting tones; especially the one that wasn't picking up from the repeater. These of course were on GMRS simplex on low power. The daughter is getting some great experience. She did well, helping me out!! call sign and all. I will check even more tomorrow. I even tried both channels. KG-935 has dual channels. I am wondering, since this radio is a GMRS Tx/Rx only, if something is going on when it's in the VFO mode when I'm Rx on the 70cm band when this is happening. Unfortunately, my other HT's are just some Midland 1000's, so I can't check that out on them. Too bad I wasn't able to key up those guys to ask. Guess it is time to go get some HAM. I was even wondering if there was another repeater out there with that 151.4 Rx tone on same Freq out there that wasn't listed. Shout out again for all help with me. Thanks everyone.
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19 minutes ago, mbrun said:
@Music2Me one thing you can do is to check your radio against another radio. If I understand correctly, your key concern is determining if you have a defective radio, and if so, you want to be proactive in getting it replaced. Does this sum it up?
Suggestion:
Get your hands on another current generation radio (same model or higher quality) that you can use as a test transmitter source. Set this Tx radio to a frequency/channel you are authorized to operate on that is shared with your 935G. Set your receive radio to the same frequency. Test every CTCSS and DCS code on your transmit radio. Using your receive radio, scan for the codes that your transmitter is sending. Scan upwards and downwards to confirm the receiver stops reliably on the expected code. Start your test by using the same two codes that experienced your 935G picking up the 70cm repeater with. Then work through all the rest.
So that you don’t burn out your test Tx radio, set its power to low.
If you have a dummy load available, hook the Tx radio to the dummy load instead of an antenna. Doing this will still give your Rx radio a good usable signal, but at a level that simulates more real-world levels. As long as you are seeing 50% or more on the meter of your Rx radio you should be good to go.
Keep track of which codes are reliably caught when scanning up and down and which ones are unreliable. If you end up with a high percentage of repeatable failures, then you may have found a justification for requesting a replacement, or for returning the radio and purchasing a different model.
I hope this idea helps.
Michael
WRHS965
KE8PLMMbrun.....Yes, that is exactly what I am trying to figure out. I do have another HT. That sounds like a great idea. I do not know why I did not even think of that. I was so focused on this repeater and code, I guess. I will do that now and keep you'll posted. Thanks million. and thanks to all that were pitching ideas and checks for me also. Great community on here!!
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Sshannon...I have no clue. I thought my hardware was "out of calibration" to put it in my words for the Rx tone. Then he checked his, I was not there, but he said his was opening at 114.8. So that's when I had no clue. 443.200/448.200 +5 114.8. Maybe this is one I just bury and move on to the next head scratching experience.... I can/did put in a receive of 151.4 and could hear the same peeps as when I entered no tone.
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16 minutes ago, Sshannon said:
That repeater is shown as having an uplink tone, but not a downlink tone.
https://www.repeaterbook.com/repeaters/details.php?state_id=05&ID=179
Would that be the Tx code(uplink)? And does not require a "Rx tone? I'm new so forgive me, but certainly an enjoying learning the massive amounts of theory and information that goes along with. this has been a head scratcher for me...lol
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Just now, Muzic2Me said:
443.2000 +5 MHz CC1 114.8 Little Rock, Shinall Mountain Pulaski N5CG OPEN FM AllStar DMR. Here is all it lists for extra info Just now, Muzic2Me said:443.2000 +5 MHz CC1 114.8 Little Rock, Shinall Mountain Pulaski N5CG OPEN FM AllStar DMR. Here is all it lists for extra info It seems to work when 151.4 is the Rx ctcss. I do understand removing the Ctcss Rx, but i think I am trying to see, like I said if i have an issue now. Thats all. Thanks for the head scratching.
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443.2000 +5 MHz CC1 114.8 Little Rock, Shinall Mountain Pulaski N5CG OPEN FM AllStar DMR. Here is all it lists for extra info -
34 minutes ago, MichaelLAX said:
What is the 2nd tone?
Where are you located in respect to this repeater?
If you're referring to the 2nd tone as the one that works for me, it is 151.4. I do not see any other tones for this repeater, other than the one listed on the directory. I am located NE away from the repeater. roughly 30 miles give or take
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So possible hardware issue if I’m using 1 tone he’s using another and we hear the same channel?
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You are correct. And yes, I can hear the same as channel without any tone.
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Wouxon kg-935g
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I agree. My reasoning for kinda asking was if I need to send this back for any type of repair bc it’s not working properly. I guess I could check others, but that was truly the only one I actually getting to monitor. Thanks on the info also. Just a head scratcher
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My GMRS HT monitors only, 70cm and i have the listed receive tone for a freq in for a week and it worked fine. Over the weekend something has changed. It does not receive with that tone from that repeater in now. So, I have scanned-tone and its a diff. Rx tone. Now I can hear with the new RxTone. asked someone else to try using the original tone that I had previously used and it works on theirs......Any reason.did my stuff break a leg.?
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1 hour ago, wayoverthere said:
The directory is very dependent on the repeater owners (or whoever adds them to the directory) to keep their information up to date as things change.
Given the overlap in RX frequency between simplex and repeater, it's possible the repeater owner changed output tones to filter out simplex users in the area. It's also possible you were just hearing simplex traffic (though CW or an automated voice id almost always indicates repeater).
I could hear the repeater ID, so if I wanted to verify repeater vs. simplex, I would just add ctcss Rx tone. If I hear; it’s repeater. Thanks for all the supportive statements and help. To everyone!
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Way over there is right. Although, maybe someone can answer this. I had a repeater programmed in and everything was good. I could receive transmission. Then over the weekend. I could see my Rx bar receiving, but no audio. I then removed ctcss code and could hear. I then tone-scan and picked up a different Rx tone and it opened my squelch with a Rx tone. Only thing I can think of is that the Rx tone was changed???. It doesn’t match with the online directory, but works… hmmmm
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21 minutes ago, wayoverthere said:
Think of PL/DPL (aka CTCSS/DCS) tones as a filter, where you only hear signals with the matching tone. You're on the right track, including the statement about preprogrammed HTs; the receive frequency is the same for the repeater and simplex channel. It's absolutely possible that you could have a RX tone set for the repeater, yet still hear simplex activity on the channel if someone is using the same tone as the repeater's output tone.
For my use, the channels I have set up for a repeater, I'll set both TX & RX tones on the repeater slot. The intent is that the repeater slot will only break squelch for signals from the repeater, while the equivalent simplex slot runs with no receive tone set, so I'll hear everything else on the channel.
That makes sense. Thanks for the feedback. The longer I mess with this it will all click the Switch on one day.
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1 hour ago, MichaelLAX said:
I rarely use receive tones. They are generally only needed if you have interference from another repeater on the same frequency
If you program in the wrong receive frequency it’s possible that you will hear nothing
Most likely a Morse code ID is from a Repeater
If you can record the Motse code ID, post it here and we can reverse engineer it for you to determine who owns the repeater and see if it’s in the myGMRS database
Sounds good. Thanks! I'm still learning. I have always been the " I want to know how it works" and not "just click here, turn up the volume and your good to go" type at anything. It makes me understand better, but sometimes a frustration too. lol. Still understanding the receive Freq/Channels 15-22 for simplex and the repeater channels 23-30 are the same Rx, but with the offset of 5 for transmit to repeaters input. on Ch 23-30. So, I am assuming that if I have no Receive tone for the Repeater channel. I could be hearing the Simplex channel. Or regardless if I have a receive tone on the repeater channeI, I am still hearing it on the simplex channel, b/c they are the same Rx freq? I guess what I am saying that in a pre-programmed HT, the only diff. is that Repeater channels have the TX already config for transmit at offset. "Thats clear as mud".
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No question… is the stupid question.. with that said. Newbie… I installed a temp antenna for my HT at the homestead. I’ve programmed a repeater in to see if I was able to Rx. I haven’t heard anything on it( non-actively listening). Today I was scanning and it hit the repeater channel. Question: I removed the Rx tone from this repeater channel and heard Morse code when it stopped the scan on this channel. Is it possible I heard the repeater, or possibly the simplex channel?
any info would be great! Thanks in advance
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4 minutes ago, MichaelLAX said:
Good one!!!
Programing gripe
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So how do you like the Icom's?..I have seen a lot of them on-line.