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One nice thing about it is that it has a detachable faceplate that can be mounted remotely. You can mount the radio itself under a seat, or in the trunk, and mount the faceplate on the dash or some other easily accessible place. For people who cannot mount a full sized radio in their car easily, it is a nice option.
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"Wouxun says the KG-1000G is built using a "classic radio circuit", but what they mean to do is differentiate their products from many lower quality radios being built today. Often radios are built using "radio-on-a-chip" technology that makes them inexpensive to produce, but often inferior in sound quality and receive sensitivity. The KG-1000G is a "real" radio, with a superheterodyne receiver, built in the same way as expensive professional radios made by large manufacturers."
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Bad ground perhaps?
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I figured it out I think
I looked closer at the manual and it has a chart on the frequencies
LOL
It all boiled down the
RTM
Read the manual
Lololol
Thanks
I’m still not sure 100% but I still slashing away at it until I do figure it out.
LOL Yes, reading the manual helps, and yes, it has a chart. Good luck and enjoy.
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Hey from Atlanta, GA
I have worked with HAM so I am not new to radio, but I am new to GMRS.
Let's talk Repeaters.
I have a Midland 115 and I have seen videos on setting it up to talk to the repeaters, and I know have the channels set for repeater channels... but when setting the wake up tones.... I don't see that.
On my Midland, it is looking for something else... The CT and DC. The list here on he maps is looking for Tone Out and Tone in.
For example.... 123.4 for Tone Out and 123.4 for Tone In.... Would I just set the radio for 123?
or1234?
Please advise and thank you ahead of time.
Are you sure you need 123.4? The standard code is 123.0, and there is not a 123.4 CTCSS on the standardized chart. On the 115, to get 123.0, you look it up on their chart, and choose code 18 under CTCSS codes.
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I'm not assuming, I'm clearly stating that the overall attitude of how repeaters are handled on GMRS stinks. Plain and simple. It's an elitist mentality that makes it unwelcoming to others. If you want privacy, get a business license.
Do repeaters cost money? Sure they do. I've built and maintained many ham machines myself. You want to talk about expense, go price out a set of new cans for a VHF machine. They'll cost more than a full turnkey GMRS repeater.
At the end of the day, what does getting people to find you to ask for permission do for you? Does it stroke the ego? All else aside, we both know that the "yes" will come out much more often than the "no" out of concern that you may have just created your next jammer. So given that this is all a song and dance, why not spare everyone the trouble and just not worry about it?
No, it doesn't strike the ego, it leaves the repeater free for your own use, and for your family, if that is why you set it up.
Someone may want for people to ask permission, so they can limit who uses it, and for what purpose, so they do not get abusive people on their repeater. Some people can be quite obnoxious.
No, they do not own the frequency, and as others have stated, you are free to use that frequency as well, so set up your own repeater, and leave it open to the public if you feel so strongly about it. It isn't that they have the right to keep people off that frequency, but they do have the right, and some may say the responsibility to govern who uses their transmitting equipment, since they can possibly be held liable for other people's misuse of the system. I know I wouldn't want people to use my repeater in a matter that violates FCC regulations. In the end, it is their equipment, and they do not have to let you use it. Set up your own.
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I would be happy to actually hear chatter. In my area I hear virtually nothing, with the exception of some business use on occasion on FRS. One night I did hear a man ranting by himself, spouting profanities, etc., for hours. I was able to figure out who he was and where he lived based on an FCC search. I called him by name at one point hoping he would stop, but he didn't. I switched off the radio.
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But wait, we’er not done yet! Now you have to figure in your coax loss. For a typical run of 75 feet of LMR400 at 450MHz, close enough to the GMRS band at 462 to 467, the loss is another 2.03db. So your real gain is around 4.82db, which is a factor of 3.03 increase. For 5 watts in it looks like you have an effective radiated power of 15.17 watts.
It's worse than that, he said he will be using Rg58u.
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Some handhelds can be programed for narrowband. The Tera TR-505 is one. It is 4 watts though.
As for the Motorola T460, I had bad luck with the consumer GMRS radios from Motorola, they do not seem to be Motorola quality, I believe they are made for them. I had the 350R, and they had poor sound quality, and one suffered from the low volume issue. I bought the Midland GTX1000 handhelds to test against them, and the Midlands beat them in every way, with the exception of repeater use, since the Midlands are not repeater capable. I returned the Motorolas and kept the Midlands. They have worked well for the past five years.
I did buy the Tera TR-505 handhelds though, and have been happy with them. The Midlands are still used at times though. The Tera has better sound though.
I would personally avoid the consumer Motorola offerings. They professional radios though are great, which really doesn't need to be said. If you buy them, get them somewhere with a good return policy.
And don't get hung up on 5 watts. The Tera is 4 watts, and has better range than the Midlands that claim 5 watts. There will be very little difference between 4 watts and 5 watts.
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If you can find the detailed specifications for the radio look at the receiver section. If the type is stated as “direct conversion” the odds are very high it’s a cheap “radio on a chip” type design.
It seems that www.buytwowayradios.com claims it is not radio on chip.
""Classic" Radio Circuitry. One of the big reasons that there are so many low priced radios available is that there single microchips available that control almost all radio features. This is great if you're looking to keep costs down, but there's a reason that popular business radio brands don't use them: they compromise quality for price. If we were going to call our radio "Business Quality" it needed to be built like a business radio - inside and out."
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The most recent FCC report I saw on the Midland GXT1000 series was 2.65 W max, despite their advertising. A bit disappointing, that, but it's still plenty for my needs.
I have the Midland GTX1000 and have found them to be a very nice little radio. I originally bought the Motorola MR350R, and found them to be very bad. They had very poor sound quality, and one of the handsets exhibited the low volume issue some of them had. We then bought the Midlands to test side by side, and the Midland outperformed the Motorola in every way, including range. The best part was we could actually hear each other on them.
Later we bought the Tera 505 handhelds and generally use those. We still use the Midlands though, they work well, and are durable. I don't feel unduly worried about them when using them in bad conditions either.
I wouldn't mind buying the Wouxuns though, since I believe they are not a "radio on chip" design, so they should receive better than radios with the radio on chip design.
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Knockout punches are the only thing I ever saw used by the companies I knew who installed police radios. The tool form the Antenna Farm looks nice but for the money, I'd rather buy the knockout punch.
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Honestly, the best thing to use for a hole in the roof is a knockout punch. https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-730BB-3-Standard-Knockout-4-Inch/dp/B001UL13M2/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=knockout+punch+3%2F4&qid=1591377435&sr=8-8
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It was somewhat directional. On the blind side, off the back, the simplex range was just less than if I am driving toward the other station. The SWR was fine and I could work repeaters 20+ miles away with no issues.
It's my go-to antenna when I'm going 4-wheeling.
Thanks Marc.
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I can't find any pics with the Diamond mount. I'll look around some more.
Here is a Comet NMO mount and the Comet CA-2x4SR on my JK.
http://fiveguysracing.com/marc/HAM-GMRS/Comet_Mount_And_Antenna_1.jpg
Same mount with the Tram antenna
http://fiveguysracing.com/marc/HAM-GMRS/Comet_Mount_And_Tram_Antenna_.jpg
This is my JT with the Ham antenna (screwdriver) on the passenger's side and the GMRS antenna on the driver's side.
http://fiveguysracing.com/marc/JT_Rubicon/JT_Drive.jpg
Hey Marc,
How did the 1/4 wave perform in that position? I have considered it since it is fairly easy for me to route a wire into the vehicle from there.
Thanks,
Phil
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This shows the codes for Cobra radios and others: https://www.k0tfu.org/reference/frs-gmrs-privacy-codes-demystified.html
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The problem I have with FRS is the range. The park where my kids play I can see from my house FRS 95% of the time can't communicate where GMRS can all the time.
Are you using the old models that are only .5 watt? With the new rules channels 1-7, and 15-22 can be put to 2 watts.
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Got the same response on the other forum, only more harsh.
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What's the range needed and budget? MURS will give greater range than GMRS HT-to-HT. MURS allows mobile and base antennas which can yield several miles of coverage. The downsides are a 2 watt limit, no repeaters and no real mobile rigs on the market.
That is not always true, especially given the fact the antenna for MURS needs to be longer than that for GMRS in order to me efficient. In my area I have tested both, and generally speaking, we get better range with GMRS, even though theoretically MURS should work better since we have hills. I love MURS, but with the shorter antennas on hand held, I am getting better range with GMRS. Now, with a longer antenna, MURS may give better range, but I don't want one on my handheld.
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It's a company that sells survival/preparedness products. Their entire company is built around that premise. I wouldn't be too concerned about how they market the radio in light of what their company is all about. It makes sense for their company model. People who are going to their site normally, are there for that reason. If you like the radio, buy it.
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Good to hear, and thanks for reporting back.