When the database gives me a Input / Output tone for a local repeater, is it Tone or T-Sql?

[WRVH403]

 

If I select "Tone", I can get the Input tone but not the Output tone.  If I select Tone, I can enter 131.8 but the output tone defaults to 67.0 hz.  However, if I use T-Sql, I can set the input and output to 131.8.

 

Which is correct?   Tone or T-Sql?  I am using RT Systems programmer, btw.....

 

Jeff W Waldrop

WRVH403

 

 

 

[WRVH403]

I found my answer.  What I can't find is how to delete my post....

 

Jeff

[SteveShannon]

56 minutes ago, WRVH403 said:

I found my answer.  What I can't find is how to delete my post....

 

Jeff

You can’t unless you’re a premium member.  Don’t worry about it though.

T-sql requires a tone on receive.  Tone doesn’t.  You can hear a repeater in T-sql IFF (IFF = if and only if) you have the correct rx tone programmed.  If you use Tone you will hear everything on a frequency, regardless of if it includes a tone.

[nokones]

The RT Systems CPS is another "Less Than Simple" programming software application  just as that "Less Than Simple" programming software application called Chirp.

With Kenwood proprietary CPS, at least there are only two tone/code settings, one for receive (decode) and one transmit (encode) in the CPS.

With Motorola, you have to tell it CSQ for no tone/code, PL, or DPL and then select the appropriate tone/code for receive (Decode); and and I believe it is None, PL, or DPL and then select the appropriate tone/DPL for transmit (Encode).

[Socalgmrs]

36 minutes ago, nokones said:

The RT Systems CPS is another "Less Than Simple" programming software application  just as that "Less Than Simple" programming software application called Chirp.

With Kenwood proprietary CPS, at least there are only two tone/code settings, one for receive (decode) and one transmit (encode) in the CPS.

With Motorola, you have to tell it CSQ for no tone/code, PL, or DPL and then select the appropriate tone/code for receive (Decode); and and I believe it is None, PL, or DPL and then select the appropriate tone/DPL for transmit (Encode).

What? Rt systems and chirp are the most simple easy to use programming softwares out there.  It’s just no one wants to learn.  They are so easy my 10 year old grand kids use them all the time.  It’s like saying driving a stick is hard but millions of people every day do it with no problem.  Geesh some people are so lazy.  

[WRVH403]

Thanks all from South Louisiana

 

Jeff

 

 

[Jaay]

5 hours ago, nokones said:

The RT Systems CPS is another "Less Than Simple" programming software application  just as that "Less Than Simple" programming software application called Chirp.

With Kenwood proprietary CPS, at least there are only two tone/code settings, one for receive (decode) and one transmit (encode) in the CPS.

With Motorola, you have to tell it CSQ for no tone/code, PL, or DPL and then select the appropriate tone/code for receive (Decode); and and I believe it is None, PL, or DPL and then select the appropriate tone/DPL for transmit (Encode).

RT Systems is SO easy to use, a Caveman can do it !

[HHD1]

On 5/20/2025 at 11:05 AM, SteveShannon said:

T-sql requires a tone on receive.  Tone doesn’t.  You can hear a repeater in T-sql IFF (IFF = if and only if) you have the correct rx tone programmed.  If you use Tone you will hear everything on a frequency, regardless of if it includes a tone.

Interesting.  I did not know that.  So if I program my HT's with T-sql, anyone on that frequency must have that same t-sql set or they won't hear us?

[SteveShannon]

46 minutes ago, HHD1 said:

Interesting.  I did not know that.  So if I program my HT's with T-sql, anyone on that frequency must have that same t-sql set or they won't hear us?

No, if you program your radio with TSQL, you won’t hear anyone else unless they are transmitting using the RX tone or code you have programmed. Anyone listening using Tone will hear your transmissions. 
Squelch mode only affects your own radio reception. 

[HHD1]

4 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

No, if you program your radio with TSQL, you won’t hear anyone else unless they are transmitting using the RX tone or code you have programmed. Anyone listening using Tone will hear your transmissions. 
Squelch mode only affects your own radio reception. 

Ok, that's what I thought.  I misunderstood.  Thank you.

[GrouserPad]

Tsql is for a repeater that uses the same tones in and out 

[HHD1]

19 hours ago, HHD1 said:

Anyone listening using Tone will hear your transmissions. 

Won't anyone listening on that frequency with no tone set, hear ?

[HHD1]

So tone is TX.  And tone Squelch is TX and RX?

[BoxCar]

3 hours ago, HHD1 said:

So tone is TX.  And tone Squelch is TX and RX?

You got it!