WSHW974 Posted Monday at 09:46 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:46 PM I am new to GMRS but not to radio (50+years in ham radio). I just bought a new Radiodity DB40-G that I am trying to program. The manual lists that the first 30 channels on it are not programmable? If they can not be programmed, why have them in the radio? I want to set tones for some local repeaters. I can not get the CPS from Radiodity to download info from the radio either. I guess I will go buy the RT Systems CPS. I know their software works. 73 de WSHW974 Jim Quote
Socalgmrs Posted Monday at 10:13 PM Report Posted Monday at 10:13 PM 50 YEARS IN RADIOS. WILL SLAP MY GRANDMA. I can’t believe with that much experience you got that radio. Oh well guess experience doesn’t mean much. On to your most basic of questions that could have been answered with a quick interweb search You Might need to dive into the instructions or u tube videos. Also might want to explore and learn how gmrs radios are different from ham radios as far as being locked 1-22 are gmrs simplex channels locked in on gmrs radios. Can not be changed. 23-30 are repeater duplex channels with +5 offset After that you can program simplex with tones or repeaters with tones. channels GrouserPad 1 Quote
WRUU653 Posted Monday at 10:25 PM Report Posted Monday at 10:25 PM @WSHW974 please ignore the snide comments from this forum’s resident ass hat. You can certainly program tones in these first 30 channels. What they are referring to is that GMRS is a channel based service and so the frequencies are assigned to the channels and baked in. The first 22 are simplex and the next eight are for repeaters with the same receive frequencies as 15-22 and the transmit having a pre programmed + 5. (462.xxx Rx and 467.xxx Tx) No need to set the offset as it is also baked in. You can set tones for repeaters as well. Hope this helps. Jaay, WSHW974 and WRXB215 2 1 Quote
WRYZ926 Posted Monday at 10:26 PM Report Posted Monday at 10:26 PM 33 minutes ago, WSHW974 said: I am new to GMRS but not to radio (50+years in ham radio). I just bought a new Radioddity DB40-G that I am trying to program. The manual lists that the first 30 channels on it are not programmable? If they can not be programmed, why have them in the radio? I want to set tones for some local repeaters. I can not get the CPS from Radioty to download info from the radio either. I guess I will go buy the RT Systems CPS. I know their software works. 73 de W8NSI/WSHW974 Jim You should be able to change the tones for the repeater channels. I'm not familiar with the DB40-G so I don't know if they are listed as CH 23-30 or RPT 15-22. Either way there should not be any reason why you can't add tones to the pre programmed repeater channels. Now as far as why the first 30 channels are locked, some manufacturers do that since GMRS is channelized. And if you can't add/change the tones for the pre-programmed repeater channels, then just add channels above 30 to what ever settings you want. PS: Ignore Negative Nancy, he is off his meds again. Quote
UncleYoda Posted Monday at 10:34 PM Report Posted Monday at 10:34 PM 41 minutes ago, WSHW974 said: The manual lists that the first 30 channels on it are not programmable? If they can not be programmed, why have them in the radio? I want to set tones for some local repeaters. Because you just set tones (and names usually) as desired on those pre-programmed channels. Quote I can not get the CPS from Radioty to download info from the radio either. I guess I will go buy the RT Systems CPS. I know their software works. Probably a driver issue for the cable. Does it let you select the right comm port? Quote
WSHW974 Posted Tuesday at 12:54 AM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 12:54 AM 2 hours ago, Socalgmrs said: 50 YEARS IN RADIOS. WILL SLAP MY GRANDMA. I can’t believe with that much experience you got that radio. Oh well guess experience doesn’t mean much. I guess you are the resident insulter and jackass when someone asks a question? I see your snide comments all over this forum. Your type should normally just sit and watch but it never happens 'cuz you just have to get your jollies. You just LOVE talking down at someone new to gmrs when a question is asked. I bought the RT Systems software [far superior to the free download CPS from Radiodity] and found out that the DB40-G manual is full of crap. Darn near everything is programmable. And YES, I got into ham radio from back when CB was 23 channels, there was a 5 and 5 rule, and the radios were crystal controlled (early 1960's). My first cb was a Heathkit GW-22 five channel crystal rig. I went in the navy and when I got out, an old cb buddy had gone ham so he gave me the novice test in 1972. That got my foot in the door of ham radio. I have held NOVICE, TECH, GENERAL, ADVANCED, and now EXTRA. I am still licensed and know morse code (Extra Class) 53 years later. I still have my old 23 channel Citifone SS mobile and base rigs (gathering dust in the closet). I just got interested in GMRS because our local Skywarn group started using GMRS as an alternate method to check in to the weather watch nets along with 2m/70cm. PS: I doubt any of this will put a civil tongue in you but one can hope. PPS: Radiodity does supply a "driver" for their CPS but it made no difference. I now have my radio programmed for several local repeaters. PPPS: I bought a nanoVNA so I could build my gmrs j-pole antenna and get it tuned without a lot of rigamarole. I didn't have to put up with your type while building it either. SteveShannon, Jaay and WRUU653 1 2 Quote
WSHW974 Posted Tuesday at 01:06 AM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 01:06 AM 2 hours ago, UncleYoda said: Probably a driver issue for the cable. Does it let you select the right comm port? I may have missed it. I thought of com ports but didn't see ports listed. The included driver from Radiodity made no difference. I bought the RT Systems CPS and that works. The radio is now programmed for several local repeaters. Thanks for the civil reply. 73 de WSHW974 Quote
WSHW974 Posted Tuesday at 01:18 AM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 01:18 AM 2 hours ago, WRYZ926 said: Now as far as why the first 30 channels are locked, some manufacturers do that since GMRS is channelized. And if you can't add/change the tones for the pre-programmed repeater channels, then just add channels above 30 to what ever settings you want. PS: Ignore Negative Nancy, he is off his meds again. The manual for the DB40-G was downloaded as a pdf file. Half of it is really a joke as it sometimes refers to the radio as a handitalkie. That is where it also said the first 30 were locked. Puzzled the heck out of me especially since I could not get their CPS to load/run. Their driver made no difference. So I bought the RT Systems CPS. I highly recommend the RT System programming packages. As for "Negative Nancy" you have to wonder if he has been banned from the socal gmrs repeaters so he has to spread his bile on here. tnx and 73 de WSHW974 WRYZ926 1 Quote
WRUE951 Posted Tuesday at 02:04 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:04 AM 1 hour ago, WSHW974 said: I guess you are the resident insulter and jackass when someone asks a question? I see your snide comments all over this forum. Your type should normally just sit and watch but it never happens 'cuz you just have to get your jollies. You just LOVE talking down at someone new to gmrs when a question is asked. I bought the RT Systems software [far superior to the free download CPS from Radiodity] and found out that the DB40-G manual is full of crap. Darn near everything is programmable. And YES, I got into ham radio from back when CB was 23 channels, there was a 5 and 5 rule, and the radios were crystal controlled (early 1960's). My first cb was a Heathkit GW-22 five channel crystal rig. I went in the navy and when I got out, an old cb buddy had gone ham so he gave me the novice test in 1972. That got my foot in the door of ham radio. I have held NOVICE, TECH, GENERAL, ADVANCED, and now EXTRA. I am still licensed and know morse code (Extra Class) 53 years later. I still have my old 23 channel Citifone SS mobile and base rigs (gathering dust in the closet). I just got interested in GMRS because our local Skywarn group started using GMRS as an alternate method to check in to the weather watch nets along with 2m/70cm. PS: I doubt any of this will put a civil tongue in you but one can hope. PPS: Radiodity does supply a "driver" for their CPS but it made no difference. I now have my radio programmed for several local repeaters. PPPS: I bought a nanoVNA so I could build my gmrs j-pole antenna and get it tuned without a lot of rigamarole. I didn't have to put up with your type while building it either. Block him.. SteveShannon 1 Quote
Jaay Posted Tuesday at 06:01 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 06:01 AM 5 hours ago, WSHW974 said: I guess you are the resident insulter and jackass when someone asks a question? I see your snide comments all over this forum. Your type should normally just sit and watch but it never happens 'cuz you just have to get your jollies. You just LOVE talking down at someone new to gmrs when a question is asked. I bought the RT Systems software [far superior to the free download CPS from Radiodity] and found out that the DB40-G manual is full of crap. Darn near everything is programmable. And YES, I got into ham radio from back when CB was 23 channels, there was a 5 and 5 rule, and the radios were crystal controlled (early 1960's). My first cb was a Heathkit GW-22 five channel crystal rig. I went in the navy and when I got out, an old cb buddy had gone ham so he gave me the novice test in 1972. That got my foot in the door of ham radio. I have held NOVICE, TECH, GENERAL, ADVANCED, and now EXTRA. I am still licensed and know morse code (Extra Class) 53 years later. I still have my old 23 channel Citifone SS mobile and base rigs (gathering dust in the closet). I just got interested in GMRS because our local Skywarn group started using GMRS as an alternate method to check in to the weather watch nets along with 2m/70cm. PS: I doubt any of this will put a civil tongue in you but one can hope. PPS: Radiodity does supply a "driver" for their CPS but it made no difference. I now have my radio programmed for several local repeaters. PPPS: I bought a nanoVNA so I could build my gmrs j-pole antenna and get it tuned without a lot of rigamarole. I didn't have to put up with your type while building it either. SOCAL is a permanent Jerk off, but you'll get used to him being like that ... Maybe. SteveShannon 1 Quote
WSHG909 Posted Tuesday at 05:04 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 05:04 PM I went with the RT Systems programming and solved all issues I was having with the Radioddity software. It's worth the few bucks extra. This is a good radio and only complaint is the display being hard to read in my Jeep. Just can't get the contrast right to see the display. This is mostly because of my eyes being past their prime. SoCal ... or whatever his name is a jackass. SteveShannon and Jaay 2 Quote
WRYZ926 Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM 11 hours ago, Jaay said: SOCAL is a permanent Jerk off, but you'll get used to him being like that ... Maybe. 10 minutes ago, WSHG909 said: SoCal ... or whatever his name is a jackass. Negative Nancy is that weird 3rd cousin that everyone stays far away from at family reunions. Some complain about the price of the RT systems CPS but the cost is worth it for me. Especially now that they are starting to have more MAC versions available. SteveShannon and Jaay 2 Quote
Jaay Posted Tuesday at 08:19 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 08:19 PM It seems RT Systems has become the go to for programming in both hobbies, and talking with them on the phone is a pleasure. All except for my moto's and a few Kenwoods I think I RT for everything else ! $$$ WRYZ926 1 Quote
WRYS709 Posted Tuesday at 10:44 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 10:44 PM RT has the history and reputation for quality software and it will always beat out both “free” manufacturers software and “free” Chirp! I keep a master programming list in Excel saved in the universal text format: CSV Quote
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