WRCL964 Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPY&RequestTimeout=500&tcb_code=&application_id=VY49J%2BjB452OyWn41o3EJA%3D%3D&fcc_id=POD-GMRS25 Anyone else hear any details about this? It appears to have about 15W on GMRS and possibly repeater capable, based on the FCC grant. Quote
n4gix Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 That is a very nice looking radio! Logan5 1 Quote
n4gix Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 Here is a link to the manual: https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=4088274 Quote
WRCL964 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Report Posted December 17, 2018 Thank you. Max Power actually looks like 25W on GMRS channels. I was just hoping it was a new handheld and not a mobile unit. Quote
Hans Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 Full list of documents, https://fccid.io/POD-GMRS25 Other TYT stuff under POD, https://fccid.io/POD There is an FRS in that list... 12-4-2018? Quote
RCM Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 That is indeed, a very neat looking little radio! It's rated as being waterproof too, and the advertising specifically mentions using it on motorcycles and ATVs.I wonder if the low power setting can be adjusted to 2 watts for MURS? Btw, the manual specifically states that it does offset for repeater operation. Hans 1 Quote
Hans Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 It's a TYT model that has been all over. The original has a WP version (water proof) and a regular version. I've used them and heard them being used (pre-95 certification). They aren't bad little radios, IMHO. It looks to me like they just submitted it for certification with little, if any, modification. RCM 1 Quote
Hans Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 I wonder if the low power setting can be adjusted to 2 watts for MURS? AFAIK, its certification is for 95e... GMRS. That wouldn't cover MURS. Everybody I've known running these pre-95e have MURS programmed in them at 5 watts. Downs 1 Quote
RCM Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 AFAIK, its certification is for 95e... GMRS. That wouldn't cover MURS. Everybody I've known running these pre-95e have MURS programmed in them at 5 watts.Oh, I didn't notice that part. Oh well. Quote
n4gix Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 I wonder if the low power setting can be adjusted to 2 watts for MURS?Although a "dual band" radio, I don't think it supports VHF frequencies... Quote
Hans Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 Although a "dual band" radio, I don't think it supports VHF frequencies... The original does and I'd bet that the new one does as well. They didn't even bother to repaint the case to some other model name. Quote
n4gix Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 Odd then that nothing but GMRS UHF channels are listed...Even more odd is that the wrong emissions designator is listed: 14K5F3EThat should be 14K4F3E Hans 1 Quote
Hans Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 I can't verify until I have one in my paws but my guess is that it will be possible to program it up; VHF included. Quote
NorthwestNeil Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 I'm thinkin' it came out of the BaoFeng factory. There's a lot of their gear out there with other names on it. Quote
haneysa Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 I missed this thread, but just found it after searching for 95E mobile radio grants, and seeing the TYT-GMRS25 or TYT TH-8600 V1.4 GMRS. I saw a post on "Amateur Radio News" by Xiao low-cost dated 1 Dec 2018 about the radio. That post lists the bandwidth at 25Khz, wideband 16K0F3E. I do not believe that could be correct for all the frequencies that it can xmit on because the interstitial channels with 5w limit are narrow 12.5Khz, and the 50w limit GMRS channels are 20Khz (medium??) under the recent changes. I sure like the idea of a currently-produced competitor for the Midland MXTs, especially if it is IP67 rated! I wish TYT would take similar action with one of their IP67 HTs (like one of their "rugged" DMR HTs, with the digital portion "disabled" for Part 95E. Quote
Hans Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 I can't verify until I have one in my paws but my guess is that it will be possible to program it up; VHF included. I'm quoting myself because I have experienced another data point since my post. We had a TYT TH-8600 here that was firmware locked to 2m and 70cm only. As such, I am changing my guess and say that any future part specific units based on the TYT TH-8600 will likely be locked to their appropriate frequency range if they enter the country legally. This will likely be firmware fixed so that it will require a firmware downgrade to change it. Quote
WRCY896 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Posted March 4, 2019 I emailed TYT about this radio. I got a response late last night (from China) who put me in touch with the vendor for the US. I got a response from him stating that they are in stock able to be sold, but are not being marketed yet. I did request to be put in touch with a sales rep. Will see how it goes. Big questions will be in regards to be able to TX and RX on different tones as is a problem with the only other GMRS radio out there. Will update. Hans 1 Quote
WRCY896 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Posted March 5, 2019 I talked to Rugged Radios today. The GMRS 25 has the following specs, according to the sales person. IP67 ratingRX and TX tone selective25khz bandwidthField - microphone control - programmableThey have them for sale, though have not directly marketed them yet. $250 The price seems steep to me, but for a person like myself who just wants to have a radio that works, and doesn't want to mess with things too much, it might be worth it. I am considering getting one in the near future, as I don't have any radios yet and just got my license. I have been searching for a while now. RCM, Hans and mcallahan 3 Quote
mcallahan Posted March 12, 2019 Report Posted March 12, 2019 Rugged Radios is a complete rip off. I would never buy anything from them, the radios they sell are rebranded CCRs with a ridiculous markup. RCM, Hans, ratkin and 1 other 4 Quote
Hans Posted March 12, 2019 Report Posted March 12, 2019 Rugged Radios is a complete rip off. I would never buy anything from them, the radios they sell are rebranded CCRs with a ridiculous markup. Indeed. I agree. Elkhunter521 1 Quote
WRCY896 Posted March 12, 2019 Report Posted March 12, 2019 I am starting to realize that. I have not purchased anything from them yet. That is just who I was referred to when I emailed TYT. Hans 1 Quote
mcallahan Posted March 12, 2019 Report Posted March 12, 2019 They also used to (maybe the still do) sell radios preprogrammed with what they called "race channels" which were a mix of frequencies from the business and public safety pools. They did not make it clear to the consumerthat appropriate FCC licenses are required to operate, and that the risk of causing harmful interference was very high. Not a reputable company, in my opinion. Radioguy7268, ratkin, Downs and 1 other 4 Quote
Jones Posted March 15, 2019 Report Posted March 15, 2019 From my point of view, Rugged Radios' target market seems to be "wannabees". They sell over-priced "wannabe" radio equipment to guys who "wannabe" Dale Junior, "wannabe" Rambo, "wannabe" Bob Chandler (Bigfoot), "wannabe" a policeman or a fireman.... ...Whackers Hans 1 Quote
Downs Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 I did a short Youtube video on this. Got a lot of flak from RR defenders. They are sponsoring a bunch of off road channels on YouTube now so their re-badged overpriced stuff is getting more and more out there and gaining more supporters who IMO either dont' know any better or are getting free stuff from them anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChdwiXtukR4 ratkin, RCM, n4gix and 1 other 4 Quote
n4gix Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 I watched your video and gave it a thumbs up. Just for the sake of information though, Bao Feng is actually pronounced as "Po Fung..." Chinese pronunciation is weird don't ya know! Hans 1 Quote
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