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#21 n4gix

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Posted 31 December 2019 - 07:38 PM

Odd then Marc that the founder of NSEA is the listed owner of three repeaters in northern Chicagoland, and none of them id themselves. He is also a licensed communications attorney who's frequently in contact with the local FCC field office.



#22 marcspaz

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 12:00 AM

Odd then Marc that the founder of NSEA is the listed owner of three repeaters in northern Chicagoland, and none of them id themselves. He is also a licensed communications attorney who's frequently in contact with the local FCC field office.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you there.  That seems to be normal behavior in the real world.  There are dozens of repeaters near me that are open for public use and only 2 of them self-ID (both in 20wpm CW).  The issue is, legally, the statute regulation is very plain language.

 

If its my repeater, me and my immediate family use the repeater... no need for the repeater to ID.  If another licensee uses my repeater, than the repeater must ID with my station identification. 

 

The only legal exception I can think of would be a grandfathered GMRS station license.  If a Trust holds a license and the Trust bi-laws states that anyone who uses the repeater is formally a beneficiary of the trust while using the repeater, than there would be no ID requirement.  (All purely hypothetical, BTW... just thinking about a legal exemption.)

 

 

 

Just a little understanding of why I am saying what I am saying.  I studied Constitutional Law for 7 year (2 in college and 5 years of independent study) and I have spent years helping both write pro-2a Bills and fight anti-2a legislation.  I am looking at it purely from a statutory prospective based on my training and experience.

 

That said, the FCC has the discretion to prosecute or not.  If laws are widely broken or those infractions are largely ignored by law enforcement, that doesn't make it legal, from a statutory standpoint.

 

A great example would be CB radio.  Maximum legal power on AM is the mean carrier power must not exceed 4 watts and its strictly prohibited to use any external amplifier of any kind.  That is the statute.  In reality, I don't know a single person who owns a CB that is running less than 30 watts without an amp and less than 200 watts with an amp.  Most CB operators I know have amps that are well over 2,000 watts.  Thousands of people are talking DX for 1,500 - 2,500 miles, every single day on CB.  Yet there is no known FCC enforcement that I am aware of, on any of these people who violate the law, and its all the same people for decades.  That doesn't mean its legal.  It just means the FCC is ignoring it, for the most part.


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 12:52 AM

47 CFR § 95.1751 is a regulation, not a statute.

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 01:10 AM

47 CFR § 95.1751 is a regulation, not a statute.

 

True... I misspoke.  Regulations are still rules published in the Federal Register by the FCC (and other federal agencies) for the purpose of enforcing statutory code.  It is the legal guideline used to establish precedent. 

 

A good example is, the Bump Stock ban from the BATFE.  The statutory code defines what a machine gun is.  However, the regulations published by the BATFE redefined what a machine gun is.  The bump stocks are now included in the definition of a machine gun via regulation, thus, now a federal firearms felony to own a bump stock.  The regulations still carry the weight of law.



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Posted 01 January 2020 - 01:30 AM

A difference that makes no difference is no difference.
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Be vewy vewy quiet.
I'm listening to my wadio!


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 11:16 AM

Marc, I don't necessarily agree with everything you said here. But you have obviously put a lot of thought and study into it, and I respect that.

And especially, thank you for the work you are doing in support of the Second Amendment!


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 11:23 AM

Ok folks. Severe topic drift here. This topic was about the Retevis RT76 radio, and has, in my view, been well addressed. Other subjects, such as FCC station identification requirements, should probably take place in the FCC Rules Discussion area.  If you want to discuss the second amendment to the US constitution, I'd suggest the Miscellaneous Topics discussion.


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 12:32 PM

Ok folks. Severe topic drift here. This topic was about the Retevis RT76 radio, and has, in my view, been well addressed. Other subjects, such as FCC station identification requirements, should probably take place in the FCC Rules Discussion area.  If you want to discuss the second amendment to the US constitution, I'd suggest the Miscellaneous Topics discussion.

Nobody was "discussing" the Second Amendment. But since you bring it up, with all the threads that have started as a simple question and been turned into Chinese radio bashing threads, why is this the one you decided to charge into and complain about "thread drift?"

Nevermind; I'm pretty sure I know why.

 

Marc listing his qualifications for legal discussion and mentioning in one brief sentence his work in support of the Second Amendment, and one line in my post thanking him for that work, does not constitute a Second Amendment discussion. It's exactly the same as if someone in a discussion mentions the radios he uses as a firefighter, and someone else says "Thank you for your service."


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#29 marcspaz

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 12:44 PM

There is always topic drift in any forum thread.  Nature of the beast, I'm afraid.

 

And this thread has been derailed since post #2.  Ian ask if anyone had experience with a RT76 and no one answered that question.  Instead, responses drifted all over.

 

For what its worth, I have no experience with the RT76.  I am tired of cheap radios and don't want to roll the dice anymore.  I can't provide any feedback beyond that.


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#30 berkinet

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 01:19 PM

Nobody was "discussing" the Second Amendment. But since you bring it up, with all the threads that have started as a simple question and been turned into Chinese radio bashing threads, why is this the one you decided to charge into and complain about "thread drift?"

Nevermind; I'm pretty sure I know why....

 

You do? Actually, I doubt it.  As @marcspaz noted, There is always topic drift in any forum thread. That is true, and topic drift doesn't help anyone in an online community. It makes it much harder to search for posts and focus discussion. These types of forums are threaded for a reason and one way to avoid too much thread drift is for the participants to raise it to everyone's attention when it occurs - which is exactly what I was doing.

 

As to the 2nd amendment, there were actually three posts. But, why would you start with personal attacks, simply because I noted the topic was out of place on this thread. In fact, you have no idea how I feel about any current political issues. But, If I did want to share my views, I would use an appropriate forum, and that is all I was suggesting.


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 02:14 PM

You do? Actually, I doubt it.  As @marcspaz noted, There is always topic drift in any forum thread. That is true, and topic drift doesn't help anyone in an online community. It makes it much harder to search for posts and focus discussion. These types of forums are threaded for a reason and one way to avoid too much thread drift is for the participants to raise it to everyone's attention when it occurs - which is exactly what I was doing.

 

As to the 2nd amendment, there were actually three posts. But, why would you start with personal attacks, simply because I noted the topic was out of place on this thread. In fact, you have no idea how I feel about any current political issues. But, If I did want to share my views, I would use an appropriate forum, and that is all I was suggesting.

No personal attack intended. I value your opinion and agree with a lot of what you say. But, I remember seeing some comments from you in the past when someone mentioned firearms.

It's hard to find any thread on this site that doesn't drift if it gets much attention at all. So again, why even bring up the 2A mention when it is probably not even 1 percent of the thread drift? Maybe you don't have an anti-gun bias. But from previous posts I've seen, that does seem to be a trigger for you. If I'm wrong, I apologize.



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Posted 02 January 2020 - 02:33 AM

How did we land a 2nd amendment argument in a RT76 radio thread? Hmm, methinks I want to buy 155mm howitzer now...

 

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 04:00 AM

How did we land a 2nd amendment argument in a RT76 radio thread? Hmm, methinks I want to buy 155mm howitzer now...

 

G.

 

 

No personal attack intended. I value your opinion and agree with a lot of what you say. But, I remember seeing some comments from you in the past when someone mentioned firearms.

 

 

How did we land a 2nd amendment argument in a RT76 radio thread? Hmm, methinks I want to buy 155mm howitzer now...

 

gman1971: We are not having a 2nd amendment argument here. My original observation was about the appropriateness of off-topic discussions. No comments were made, or implied about the second amendment, only about its (lack of) relevance to a Retevis-RT76.

 

And, in response to RCM. You are correct, I am not a big fan of guns. But, that is separate from my views on the 2nd amendment, which I prefer not to discuss in this venue. So, apology accepted, and thank you.


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Posted 02 April 2020 - 01:50 AM

Just got mine due to the plague.  (It's not a long story, but...)  First impression:  I like it.  The orange accents are happy looking, ad the PTT is pleasantly tactile and clicky.  The rubber over the headset jack isn't silicone, and won't last forever, but it's held on by a screw and won't be hard to replace... if there are spare parts in ten years.  Body is cast aluminum inside.  Not very heavy, feels cheap... and then you realize it's got no chassis flex, and it just feels light.

 

But mostly?  This thing's a chonker.  Front to back, this is almost 50% thicker than a GD77s.  Could be close to an inch and a half thick, but thankfully the edges are rounded.  Flashed a codeplug with some local repeaters, and sensible tone codes on the simplex channels, and I'll play with it in a while, but the human factors are fine so far.



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Posted 02 April 2020 - 05:42 PM

Update 1:  This thing does't seem to have a scan function.   :blink:






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