marcspaz Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Hint: FRS Radios can now transmit on the Repeater Outputs!!! Russ... this is 100% factually incorrect. Based on Code of Federal Regulations, FRS radios are not permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies, therefore will never be heard on a repeat output. They are explicitly only allowed to transmit on the allocated simplex frequencies. In fact, the ability to transmit on any frequency beyond the 22 simplex frequencies assigned to the FRS would automatically disqualify any transceiver from getting its part 95 FRS certification. Only part 95 certified GMRS radios are permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies, and that requires a GMRS operator's license. Considering I have spent the last 22 years as independent consultant for the US federal government (17+ for local government), specializing in providing emergency communications sustainment and restoration support to critical communications infrastructure, I am pretty sure I am a bit more in tune with what is happening in the industry, than what you are giving me credit for. Elkhunter521 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russwbrill Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Russ... this is 100% factually incorrect. Based on Code of Federal Regulations, FRS radios are not permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies. The are explicitly only allow to transmit on the allocated simplex frequencies. In fact, the ability to transmit on any frequency beyond the 22 simplex frequencies assigned to the FRS would automatically disqualify any transceiver from getting its part 95 FRS certification. Only part 95 certified GMRS radios are permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies, and that requires a GMRS operator's license. Considering I have spent the last 22 years as independent consultant for the US federal government (17+ for local government), specializing in providing emergency communications sustainment and restoration support to critical communications infrastructure, I am pretty sure I am a bit more in tune with what is happening in the industry, than what you are giving me credit for. YOU Didn't read what I typed, let's try again.. "Hint: FRS Radios can now transmit on the Repeater Outputs!!! The FCC Folks know there are lots of Hams playing radio on GMRS, and trying to HOG spectrum.. GMRS is referred to as the "73 centimeter" ham band... NO One here is fooling anyone". Care to retract your previous statement??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russwbrill Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Russ... this is 100% factually incorrect. Based on Code of Federal Regulations, FRS radios are not permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies, therefore will never be heard on a repeat output. They are explicitly only allowed to transmit on the allocated simplex frequencies. In fact, the ability to transmit on any frequency beyond the 22 simplex frequencies assigned to the FRS would automatically disqualify any transceiver from getting its part 95 FRS certification. Only part 95 certified GMRS radios are permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies, and that requires a GMRS operator's license. Considering I have spent the last 22 years as independent consultant for the US federal government (17+ for local government), specializing in providing emergency communications sustainment and restoration support to critical communications infrastructure, I am pretty sure I am a bit more in tune with what is happening in the industry, than what you are giving me credit for. "Considering I have spent the last 22 years as independent consultant for the US federal government (17+ for local government), specializing in providing emergency communications sustainment and restoration support to critical communications infrastructure, I am pretty sure I am a bit more in tune with what is happening in the industry, than what you are giving me credit for". Hmm, that might explain some things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcspaz Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 YOU Didn't read what I typed, let's try again.. "Hint: FRS Radios can now transmit on the Repeater Outputs!!! The FCC Folks know there are lots of Hams playing radio on GMRS, and trying to HOG spectrum.. GMRS is referred to as the "73 centimeter" ham band... NO One here is fooling anyone". Care to retract your previous statement??? Nope.... Dude... words have meaning. You can't transmit on a repeater output unless you're on the input. You even highlighted it above. You doubling down on the wrong thing doesn't make you correct. Elkhunter521 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcspaz Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Hmm, that might explain some things Now I know you are a troll. I'm done. Elkhunter521 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russwbrill Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Nope.... Dude... words have meaning. You can't transmit on a repeater output unless you're on the input. You even highlighted it above. You doubling down on the wrong thing doesn't make you correct. Really, that's news to me and lots of other radio folks.. The only way to be heard on the OUTPUT is to transmit on the Repeater INPUT, so NO SIMPLEX on the OUTPUTS, Are you SURE???. Oh this is getting funny and stupid at the same time... Sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russwbrill Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Now I know you are a troll. I'm done. Oh, I'm the Troll……. Blah, ha ha ha ha...….. Go to the corner and read some radio manuals, you'll figure it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkinet Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Nope.... Dude... words have meaning. You can't transmit on a repeater output unless you're on the input. You even highlighted it above. You doubling down on the wrong thing doesn't make you correct.Marc. I think he is saying the FRS radios can transmit simplex on the repeater output frequencies. He is not saying they can transmit through the repeater. However, I think you are right, Like you, I am done with this discussion, and as well, I think this topic is done. Could a moderator please close it. marcspaz and Elkhunter521 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcspaz Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Marc. I think he is saying the FRS radios can transmit simplex on the repeater output frequencies. He is not saying they can transmit through the repeater. However, I think you are right, Like you, I am done with this discussion, and as well, I think this topic is done. Could a moderator please close it. He is not saying the repeater output frequencies... He is saying repeater output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russwbrill Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 He is not saying the repeater output frequencies... He is saying repeater output. Yeah, and 99% of two-way folks know what "talking on the repeater output" means, it's also referred to as "Talk Around".... A.K.A. Simplex... Sheeeeshhh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russwbrill Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Talk Around:The talk around function sets the transmit and receive frequencies to the same frequency for communicating transceiver-to-transceiver. Schools out... NEXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdunajewski Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Topic locked for the greater good. jimndfw, n4gix, JLeikhim and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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