OffRoaderX Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 ..nevermind... RayP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaff Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 "Is the FCC that shut down a repeater for being linked in the room with us right now?" BigBangMachine and RayP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRXR255 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 2 hours ago, OffRoaderX said: ..nevermind... Aww, I was hoping to get a juicy story on how the fcc kicked in their door, shot their dog, and confiscated their kids Spongebob Squarepants walkie talkies. It happens all the time, according to the internet, so it must be true.. amaff, RayP and tweiss3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayP Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 2 hours ago, OffRoaderX said: ..nevermind... So, it was just more empty bs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaff Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 12 minutes ago, RayP said: So, it was just more empty bs? What was "it"? I didn't see this pop up anywhere else but here so I must've missed it RayP and SteveShannon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayP Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 10 minutes ago, amaff said: What was "it"? I didn't see this pop up anywhere else but here so I must've missed it Hi Amaff! In the comments on Not A Rubicon's most recent YouTube video (New Midland GMRS ht's), a poster said that the FCC had shut down a repeater in New York state for "linking to the internet" or similar. Randy asked several important questions in trying to get to the bottom of the alleged issue, with the poster swearing that this really happened. Randy provided his contact info. It appears from the OP above, it may have all been bs. JoCoBrian and amaff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaff Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 The comment section never fails to deliver JoCoBrian, SteveShannon, WRXR255 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted June 19 Author Report Share Posted June 19 16 minutes ago, RayP said: it may have all been bs. The NotARubicon Institute Research Staff is digging deeper and there IS something to this story - and the results may shock you... Stay tooned for the upcoming video. RayP, WRXR255, CaptainSarcastic and 6 others 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveShannon Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 22 minutes ago, RayP said: Hi Amaff! In the comments on Not A Rubicon's most recent YouTube video (New Midland GMRS ht's), a poster said that the FCC had shut down a repeater in New York state for "linking to the internet" or similar. Randy asked several important questions in trying to get to the bottom of the alleged issue, with the poster swearing that this really happened. Randy provided his contact info. It appears from the OP above, it may have all been bs. I’m glad you posted this explanation because I thought your other post implied that Randy posts BS. I’m glad to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayP Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 17 minutes ago, SteveShannon said: I’m glad you posted this explanation because I thought your other post implied that Randy posts BS. I’m glad to be wrong. Oh no. That wasn't my meaning at all. SteveShannon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayP Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 20 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said: The NotARubicon Institute Research Staff is digging deeper and there IS something to this story - and the results may shock you... Stay tooned for the upcoming video. Okay! I will be anxiously awaiting the Paul Harvey on this. Thanks for the reply! Out of "likes" for today but I will come back tomorrow and leave one. amaff and SteveShannon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaff Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 https://youtu.be/HYiDSZxZa68? My money's on either they got trolled, or whoever runs the network needed an excuse to shut it down. That story is fishy as hell. SteveShannon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 10 minutes ago, amaff said: My money's on either they got trolled, or whoever runs the network needed an excuse to shut it down. That story is fishy as hell. Indeed, the math does not add up.. Follow-up with the club-president coming soon. SteveShannon, RayP and amaff 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoG Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 I was on that repeater when I visited my son. I didn't know it was a linked repeater until I realized there were several of them with the same name. Pretty cool I was listening to Niagra Falls talks while I was near Utica. 166 miles. After I realized I heard some of the members say it was linked by RF. So no foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortex2 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 The system is linked by some rf but mostly internet, but not in the terms of linking as you would think. Most of the gear is all MSI gear made for IP links. It is still down at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoG Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Like I said, I was just listening to people that had been using this way more than me. It was my first time on it and I only discovered it was linked a day later when I noticed how far it reached when it shouldn't have been able to. I could only assume these people knew what they were talking about. I had no way of knowing otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokones Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 The alleged violation was for being interconnected by "wireline" in violation of 95.1733.a.8. The warning that Randy conveyed didn't mention anything about the "internet". The "wireline" and "internet" systems are totally different media and infrastructures. SteveShannon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokones Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 I know of two other simulcast systems with voting comparators in play but I don't know how the voting comparators are controlled. SteveShannon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokones Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Apparently, the affected system is the NY GMRS Alliaance system and it appears that there is unconfirmed information that the said FCC Notification may be a scam attempt against this GMRS Alliaance. Hopefully, Randy has his hounds on the trail. RayP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayP Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 In case anyone missed it, Not A Rubicon has an excellent interview up on YouTube now, with the President of the impacted club in New York State. Things are different than what most of us guessed but it is NOT a hoax. Thanks Randy! gortex2 and WRHS218 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaff Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 That still doesn't totally add up. If it was just a friendly head's up, what do they need a list of callsigns for? Or the hard "TODAY" deadline? That's less friendly and more potentially scare tactics. It's not like e-mail headers can't be spoofed. I'm still leaning towards 'ol boy wanted a convenient excuse to get the club off of his gear' but who knows. I mean, he knows, but he's not talking much, apparently. RayP and WRQC527 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davichko5650 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 On 6/19/2024 at 12:05 PM, OffRoaderX said: ..nevermind... Pretty good album! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggInFL Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 On 6/20/2024 at 9:02 AM, nokones said: The alleged violation was for being interconnected by "wireline" in violation of 95.1733.a.8. The warning that Randy conveyed didn't mention anything about the "internet". The "wireline" and "internet" systems are totally different media and infrastructures. Do the FCC rules make the distinction? If not the fault is with the FCC for not being current -- or Congress for not being current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveShannon Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 51 minutes ago, GreggInFL said: Do the FCC rules make the distinction? If not the fault is with the FCC for not being current -- or Congress for not being current. FCC writes the regulations. RayP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggInFL Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 ^ Understood, but the question remains: Does the FCC consider the internet a "wireline"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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