New "Rugged Guy" Clueless in PA. Need a mentor.

[Guest Rugged Guy]

OK, so I am one of those.  Buy a radio and read a lot, YouTube a lot and still lost.  Is anyone able to assist.  What are the rx/tx CCr language abbreviations?  is there a list of language abbreviations that can be shared?  I have rugged GMRS 2 Plus but am staring at it... If you have time, it would be appreciated.  RG

[Guest]

Join up here on the site with your gmrs call sign and read read read then ask specific questions. Gmrs is pretty darn simple. 

[OffRoaderX]

59 minutes ago, Guest Rugged Guy said:

What are the rx/tx CCr language abbreviations?

• RX = Receive
• TX = Transmit

CCR is a derogatory and racially motived term that "some people" use when describing a radio that does everything their very expensive radio does, but it costs 10X less monies.

[GreggInFL]

The GMRS lingo tends to be a subset of the HAM lingo, which is extensive: https://www.arrl.org/files/file/EC-016-Course/Glossary.pdf

You don't need 99% of that for GMRS.

(CCR = Cheap Chinese radio)

[SteveShannon]

1 hour ago, Guest Rugged Guy said:

OK, so I am one of those.  Buy a radio and read a lot, YouTube a lot and still lost.  Is anyone able to assist.  What are the rx/tx CCr language abbreviations?  is there a list of language abbreviations that can be shared?  I have rugged GMRS 2 Plus but am staring at it... If you have time, it would be appreciated.  RG

CCR is Credence Clearwater Revival if you’re my age, but around here it is shorthand for cheap Chinese radio. As @OffRoaderX said it’s intended to denigrate. 
There are a few other abbreviations that you’ll run into:

PL is short for Private Line, which is what Motorola marketed as their implementation of CTCSS.  There are other abbreviations for this as well. CTCSS keeps your squelch closed (radio audio output silent) unless it detects a specific audio tone included in a transmission. 
DPL means digital private line and is the same thing except with a digital code instead of an audio tone. It also has several other names such as DCS and DTCSS.

Neither DTCSS nor CTCSS provides any security but they do serve to reduce interruptions. 

[WRUU653]

1 minute ago, SteveShannon said:

CCR is Credence Clearwater Revival if you’re my age

[GreggInFL]

1 minute ago, SteveShannon said:

CCR is Credence Clearwater Revival if you’re my age...

Aw man, why didn't I think of that?

(< Slaps forehead)

[dosw]

• Tones (PL, CTCSS, DCS, Tone Squelch): All of these are just names for a way to filter out unwanted transmissions so that you only hear the ones you want, and so that others only hear you if they either have no tone set, or set a tone and use the tone you're transmitting with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_Tone-Coded_Squelch_System
  • PL: Private Line (But it's not actually private, so it's poorly named)
  • CTCSS: Continuous Tone-Coded Squelch System
  • DCS: Digital-Coded Squelch
  • DPL: Digital Private Line (Not actually private. Same as DCS)
• TX/RX: Transmit, or Receive
  • Often used in the context of tones:
    • If you set a Tx tone, you transmit that tone so others can use it in filtering out those transmitting without the tone.
    • If you set an Rx tone, you will only hear those transmitting with that same tone as their Tx tone.
    • Repeaters usually require you to use a Tx tone so that the repeater wakes up and listens to you. Repeaters may use an Rx tone so you can set your radio to only hear a channel when the repeater is transmitting that tone.
  • Often used in the context of reception: Example "My Rx is good, but nobody can hear me when I transmit", or "People hear me but my Tx is causing the radio to heat up."
• CCR: Cheap <Some country starting with "Ch"> Radio
  • Funny thing is that almost all radios are made in that country nowadays, regardless of the price. And if not that country, some other country that is not the US.
• SWR: Standing Wave Ratio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave_ratio
• Fars: A humorous term for describing how far a radio will communicate, paying attention to the fact that it is not typically reasonable to assert a given radio will transmit for a very specific distance in units like miles or kilometers. Rather than saying "Will transmit 38 miles", which is almost always incorrect for a given situation, people say "lots of fars" to indicate that the radio transmits about as well as any other radio, or "more fars" to indicate that with an antenna up high, the radio seems to have better propagation.
• Any other terms you need ad-hoc explanations for?

[Elmo777]

43 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

CCR is Credence Clearwater Revival if you’re my age, but around here it is shorthand for cheap Chinese radio. As @OffRoaderX said it’s intended to denigrate. 
There are a few other abbreviations that you’ll run into:

PL is short for Private Line, which is what Motorola marketed as their implementation of CTCSS.  There are other abbreviations for this as well. CTCSS keeps your squelch closed (radio audio output silent) unless it detects a specific audio tone included in a transmission. 
DPL means digital private line and is the same thing except with a digital code instead of an audio tone. It also has several other names such as DCS and DTCSS.

Neither DTCSS nor CTCSS provides any security but they do serve to reduce interruptions. 

Bahaha, CCR is short for creedence clearwater revival, I just felt old!!!!

[GreggInFL]

1 hour ago, Elmo777 said:

Bahaha, CCR is short for creedence clearwater revival, I just felt old!!!!

They were playing it at my recent high school reunion.  Free beer to the first person to guess which one.

[Elmo777]

8 minutes ago, GreggInFL said:

They were playing it at my recent high school reunion.  Free beer to the first person to guess which one.

55th 

 

 

[GreggInFL]

^Close.

[SteveShannon]

2 hours ago, Elmo777 said:

55th 

 

 

50th

[WRUU653]

2 hours ago, GreggInFL said:

They were playing it at my recent high school reunion.  Free beer to the first person to guess which one.

53?

[GreggInFL]

13 hours ago, SteveShannon said:

50th

We have a winner!  Stop by for a beer, Steve.

[WRXB215]

If I remember correctly, it's going to be a long drive for that beer. 

[GreggInFL]

^True.

Steve, shoot me an address (doesn't have to be yours) and I'll send a beer of your choice.

[SteveShannon]

3 minutes ago, GreggInFL said:

^True.

Steve, shoot me an address (doesn't have to be yours) and I'll send a beer of your choice.

I’ll send you mine.  I would not want to contribute to anyone else’s vices!
But I would rather drink a beer of your choice.  I like to try different beers that are locally made.

[GreggInFL]

Style preference?  Lager, pilsner, stout, etc?

[SteveShannon]

1 minute ago, GreggInFL said:

Style preference?  Lager, pilsner, stout, etc?

Yes!  Truly your choice! I like them all. The only kind I’m still getting used to are IPAs.  I like some of the Hazy ones, but some are just too bitter.

 

[GreggInFL]

2 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

Yes!  Truly your choice! I like them all. The only kind I’m still getting used to are IPAs.  I like some of the Hazy ones, but some are just too bitter.

Got it, and I agree on the IPAs. I keep trying to like wheat beers but I'm not there yet; not that they're bad, just odd.

Local is going to be tricky.  Now I have to get to work.

(I'm out of the country for a couple weeks, so nothing is going to happen soon.)

[SteveShannon]

Just now, GreggInFL said:

Got it, and I agree on the IPAs. I keep trying to like wheat beers but I'm not there yet; not that they're bad, just odd.

Local is going to be tricky.  Now I have to get to work.

(I'm out of the country for a couple weeks, so nothing is going to happen soon.)

No hurry and I’m perfectly happy with just the thought that there’s a beer in Florida waiting for me (or bring something back from the country you’re visiting).

Have a good work day!

[Guest Rugged Guy]

Well, you folks really made me feel welcome.  Loved the beer and music references...smiles

I feel a little better ... thanks

[CaptainSarcastic]

A question about radio lingo and abbreviations morphs into favorite beers rather than politics. My faith in the future of humanity has been somewhat restored

 

Very refreshing to see!

 

I will concur on the IPA's - too bitter for me. I'm a Pilsner fella myself, but I also enjoy a Guinness once in a while.

 

 

[nokones]

In the analog communication world; besides the term "PL" which is the term that Motorola marketed for CTCSS, the former GE (General Electric) Radio and also known as Tyco, Ericsson, now Harris, called their CTCSS "Channel Guard" (CG) and was referred as just "Tone".

The CTCSS "Tone" is not audible per se, the "Tone" is sub-audible in the range of 67.0 Hz to 254.1 Hz and there are 42 industry standard CTCSS tones. 

Then there are/were audible tones used in two-way radio communications and they were known as "Single Tone" or "Burst Tone" which arrived from being transmitted for a duration of one second at the beginning of the transmission to signal the system to usually unlock a specific receiver. This type of function Tone is not use in modern radio systems. The single Tone frequencies were usually 1800 Hz, 2000 Hz, 2200 Hz, 2400 Hz, and 2552 Hz.

Also, there is a 1000 Hz Tone that is normally used by radio technicians for performing radio equipment diagnostic procedures and this Tone is known as a "Test Tone".  This Tone may be transmitted in a steady state for a duration at the Technician's discretion and is very seldom ever transmitted over the air and normally in a closed loop environment in order to not interfere with normal radio communication operations.

Some Vehicular Repeater Systems (VRS or Radio Extenders) will use a 833 Hz Burst Tone in a one second duration to signal other VRS units when being enabled for the logic function of the VRS operation to prevent mulitple VRS transmitters from being transmitted at the same time from one operator source.

Then there is "DTMF" (Dual Tone Multi Frequency) which is your normal telephone type keypad dialer that is used in two-way radio and telephone communications. A radio system may use a standard 12-button keypad or a 16-button keypad dialer. A 16-button dialer is used for special functions on a radio system that are beyond the signalling of a 12-button dialer. The 16-button dialer will have a 4th row of keys to the right of the standard 12-button dialer and the keys will be labeled "A", "B", "C", and "D" from top to bottom.