KG-935H power results.

[WRUU653]

I received the new KG-935H yesterday and ran test on high power this morning with a fresh battery using my Surecom SW-102 and a *dummy load, here is what I got. I posted my KG-Q10H at ultra high setting results for comparison. I have not had a chance to take it out in the world as of yet.

* I mention this because obviously MURS and GMRS are not type approved and MURS output is way high at these settings. This is only a test, if this had been an actual emergency you would have heard screaming 

KG-935H

2m - 8.8 watts

1.25m - 4.6 watts

70cm - 8.4 watts

GMRS - 6.8 watts rept, 7.4 watts smpx 

MURS - 9.7 watts

KG-Q10H

2m - 4.5 watts

1.25m - 2.9 watts

70cm -  6.5 watts

6m - 1.1 watts

GMRS - 5.5 watts

MURS - 4.6 watts

[WRHS218]

I will be interested in a side by side comparison in TX and RX. The 935G+ is my favorite GMRS radio and my Q10H has taken over as my goto HAM HT. I purchased the Q10H one month before they came out with the 935H.

[WRUU653]

15 minutes ago, WRHS218 said:

I will be interested in a side by side comparison in TX and RX. The 935G+ is my favorite GMRS radio and my Q10H has taken over as my goto HAM HT. I purchased the Q10H one month before they came out with the 935H.

I am looking forward to trying this radio. I have a Nagoya NA-320A triband antenna along with the stock antennas. There are two 220 repeaters near me. I can hear both but only reach one so I am curious if the extra power this gives over the Q10H will be enough to hit the second repeater. I just don't have the time right now to play unfortunately. Family obligations... I hope Chirp is running with this soon, it should be easy enough given the similarities to the 935G, 935G plus and the UV8H.

[WRYZ926]

3 hours ago, WRUU653 said:

KG-Q10H

2m - 4.5 watts

1.25m - 2.9 watts

70cm -  6.5 watts

6m - 1.1 watts

GMRS - 5.5 watts

MURS - 4.6 watts

Your results are similar to mine concerning the KG-Q10H. Though I tested mine on high power and not ultra high. I always forget that the Q10H has the ultra high setting.

2m - 4.43 watts

1.25m - 2 watts

70cm -  5.9 watts

6m - 1.5 watts

GMRS - 3.5 watts

MURS - 1.5 watts

There is a definite difference from what you got on MURS and GMRS using ultra high power compared to what I got using high power. Otherwise the rest are pretty close and could be the difference between the two radios or allowed tolerances of our SureCom SW-102's

[WRUU653]

2 hours ago, WRYZ926 said:

I always forget that the Q10H has the ultra high setting.

 

 

I actually was about half done with my test when I remembered the ultra high setting and started over. I don't leave very much on that high of a setting. I would rather the battery last longer and just use what I need to get the job done. But yeah the power setting is probably the thing I forget the most. At least this time I remembered to make sure the battery was 100%.

[RIPPER238]

Good info! 

Just order a 935G+ since i was looking for a dedicated GMRS and the 935H only does 3.5-5.5 watts on GMRS anyway. I already have the Q10H, which i have been happy with. 

I should test my Q10H output, though i only have a Surecom and my regular antennas to test with.  

[WRUU653]

17 minutes ago, RIPPER238 said:

Good info! 

Just order a 935G+ since i was looking for a dedicated GMRS and the 935H only does 3.5-5.5 watts on GMRS anyway. I already have the Q10H, which i have been happy with. 

I should test my Q10H output, though i only have a Surecom and my regular antennas to test with.  

I did 6.8 on repeater (467.625) and 7.4 pretty much across the simplex channels (take another look at my info), that said you wont go wrong with the dedicated to GMRS KG-935G. It's a good radio. 

[WRYZ926]

1 hour ago, RIPPER238 said:

Good info! 

Just order a 935G+ since i was looking for a dedicated GMRS and the 935H only does 3.5-5.5 watts on GMRS anyway. I already have the Q10H, which i have been happy with. 

I should test my Q10H output, though i only have a Surecom and my regular antennas to test with.  

@WRUU653 and myself have tested the KG-Q10H. Our results are posted above. I tested on high power while he tested on ultra high power. We had different results due to power setting we each used. And you will see differences between radios even when on the same power setting.

You can't go wrong with the 935G Plus. I've been very happy with mine.

[Jaay]

8 hours ago, WRUU653 said:

I received the new KG-935H yesterday and ran test on high power this morning with a fresh battery using my Surecom SW-102 and a *dummy load, here is what I got. I posted my KG-Q10H at ultra high setting results for comparison. I have not had a chance to take it out in the world as of yet.

* I mention this because obviously MURS and GMRS are not type approved and MURS output is way high at these settings. This is only a test, if this had been an actual emergency you would have heard screaming 

KG-935H

2m - 8.8 watts

1.25m - 4.6 watts

70cm - 8.4 watts

GMRS - 6.8 watts rept, 7.4 watts smpx 

MURS - 9.7 watts

KG-Q10H

2m - 4.5 watts

1.25m - 2.9 watts

70cm -  6.5 watts

6m - 1.1 watts

GMRS - 5.5 watts

MURS - 4.6 watts

Just curious, but did you do these measurements into a dummy load, or a Antenna ? I'm also considering a 935H.

[WRUU653]

37 minutes ago, Jaay said:

Just curious, but did you do these measurements into a dummy load, or an Antenna ? I'm also considering a 935H.

 

As stated I used a dummy load. 
 

[WRZU673]

On 1/22/2025 at 2:42 PM, WRUU653 said:

I am looking forward to trying this radio. I have a Nagoya NA-320A triband antenna along with the stock antennas. There are two 220 repeaters near me. I can hear both but only reach one so I am curious if the extra power this gives over the Q10H will be enough to hit the second repeater. I just don't have the time right now to play unfortunately. Family obligations... I hope Chirp is running with this soon, it should be easy enough given the similarities to the 935G, 935G plus and the UV8H.

According to the Northmanproject4007 YouTube channel the 935H works with CHIRP but you have to use the KG-935G+ as your radio. You can find the video short here:

 

[WRYZ926]

I personally would use the free Wouxun software from Buy Two Way Radios as long as you have a Windows computer or a way to run Windows programs on Linux or Mac.

The reason I say this is the fact that there is always a chance that one could brick their radios by choosing the wrong one in CHIRP. I'm not saying that one will brick their radio by choosing the 935G in CHIRP. Just a word of caution,

[WRUU653]

2 hours ago, WRZU673 said:

According to the Northmanproject4007 YouTube channel the 935H works with CHIRP but you have to use the KG-935G+ as your radio. You can find the video short here:

Yeah I saw that but I'm leery of using it. I would love to hear if someone tries this but not me. I don't want to brick this radio. I have programmed my most used things directly and I am happy to wait for Mel to put out the Chirp software. He has been given a radio from Buy Two Way Radios and being that the radio is much like the KG-935G Plus I doubt it will be a large undertaking. 

[WSEZ]

Hey Guys thank you for sharing your information on the 935H.

Does the 935H have the capability for the Mars/Cap mod? Is the battery interchangeable with other wouxun radios like the kg-uv9gx?

Thanks

[WRYZ926]

11 minutes ago, WSEZ said:

Hey Guys thank you for sharing your information on the 935H.

Does the 935H have the capability for the Mars/Cap mod? Is the battery interchangeable with other wouxun radios like the kg-uv9gx?

Thanks

Yes the 935H can be unlocked. The same unlock method works for the Q10H and 935H. For those with the GMRS only versions, those cannot be unlocked, Yes I have tried.

I can't answer about the batteries other than the 935H will use the same batteries as the 935G. I don't have a UV-9 series radio to test. The batteries and chargers are different between the 935G/H and the Q10G/H that they are not interchangeable.

[WRUU653]

1 hour ago, WSEZ said:

Hey Guys thank you for sharing your information on the 935H.

Does the 935H have the capability for the Mars/Cap mod? Is the battery interchangeable with other wouxun radios like the kg-uv9gx?

Thanks

I can confirm @WRYZ926’s info on unlocking and battery compatibility with the KG-935G, this is a different battery than the KG-UV9 batteries. 

[Jaay]

On 2/3/2025 at 8:14 AM, WRYZ926 said:

Yes the 935H can be unlocked. The same unlock method works for the Q10H and 935H. For those with the GMRS only versions, those cannot be unlocked, Yes I have tried.

I can't answer about the batteries other than the 935H will use the same batteries as the 935G. I don't have a UV-9 series radio to test. The batteries and chargers are different between the 935G/H and the Q10G/H that they are not interchangeable.

Buytwowayradios also has a Optional 3200 mah Battery that Does work on the 935G/H but requires the charge cradle, since there's not a USB-C port on those.

[Raybestos]

Has anyone checked frequency accuracy/stability and PL tone frequency/stability?  I have had issues with both on every model of KG Series GMRS radios that I have owned.

[OffRoaderX]

3 minutes ago, Raybestos said:

Has anyone checked frequency accuracy/stability and PL tone frequency/stability?  I have had issues with both on every model of KG Series GMRS radios that I have owned.

I have had and used ~25 KG series radios, and all of them worked as designed so I've never had any need/reason to "test" them.

have you had actual "issues" using them, or did you just test them and assume that because the results were not 10000% accurate, that there were "issues"?

[Raybestos]

Hi OffRoaderX!  Sorry I am slow getting back to you.  I have a lot of things on my plate the next few days and will try and get back to you early next week with more detailed info.

The short answer is Yes, I have had actual issues with these radios as I have noted before, either with my tone not opening the CTCSS decoder on another radio, or another radio or repeater, including Motorola repeaters, not opening my decoder.  I appreciate your gallant need to challenge me anytime I mention this problem.  No doubt, your valued sponsor appreciates your efforts to de-bunk me so that they can continue marketing what is a good platform overall, but with a seriously annoying flaw regarding their encoder/decoder algorithm for CTCSS.

I'll try and get back with more in a few days.

[OffRoaderX]

1 hour ago, Raybestos said:

I appreciate your gallant need to challenge me anytime I mention this problem.  No doubt, your valued sponsor appreciates your efforts to de-bunk me so that they can continue marketing what is a good platform overall, but with a seriously annoying flaw regarding their encoder/decoder algorithm for CTCSS.

I dont recall anyone else in your other threads confirming they have the same problem...  Hopefully in this thread everyone will leave comments to confirm the truth about this major, widespread issue, proving what a shill I am, because everyone knows how I never say anything negative about any radios ever because I only say what my handlers tell me to say.

[WRYZ926]

Myself and others have quite a few of the Wouxun UV and KG series radios. And none of us have had any issues with tones not working as they should.

And NO I am not sponsored by Wouxun, Buy Two Way Radios or anyone else. I am going to give you honest answers when asked to the best of my ability. Again I have not heard anyone having issues with the CTSS Tones on any of their UV or KG series Wouxun radios.

[WRUU653]

4 hours ago, WRYZ926 said:

Myself and others have quite a few of the Wouxun UV and KG series radios. And none of us have had any issues with tones not working as they should.

And NO I am not sponsored by WOuxun, Buy Two Way Radios or anyone else. I am going to give you honest answers when asked to the best of my ability. Again I have not heard anyone having issues with the CTSS Tones on any of their UV or KG series Wouxun radios.

Couldn't have said it better. 

[Raybestos]

Hi Guys!  Sorry ot took me so long to get back to you.  It has been a very hectic week for me.

Every model of Wouxun ht I have owned has exhibited issues with its PL encode and/or decode algorithm.  The worst were the KG905G's.  I had two and, before I knew there was a problem, bought two more for some good friends.  Some times, some frequencies, using some PL codes, they either failed to properly encode or decode using the same PL on the same frequency.  You could try communicating simplex using certain tones and, depending on individual radios, the PL would not open on one or more of the radios in use when in literal line-of-sight with each other.  I believe I experienced this with 250.3 and/ or 254.1.  Frequencies and encode/decode tones were checked, double checked, and re-checked.  The problem persisted.

I have had this or similar issues with KG935G (which sounds to be about a KHz or more off-frequency transmitted and received), KG935G+, KG1000G+, and KGS88G radios, owned by myself and/or friends.

For those of you who have never encountered these problems, I am sincerely glad for you.  Maybe I received radios from lots from the days the people in the Chinese labor camps were not fed or watered well, or maybe not beaten severely enough, to produce the quality of product you guys enjoy.  Just because your radios have worked well does not mean that others have not experienced problems as I describe.

Some people have bought Dodge automobiles for decades and never had a problem.  Others never had a Dodge that was anything but trouble.  Ditto Fords, Chevys, and other brands.  Me, I had three Hyundais in a row, starting in 2000, when the company began trying to pull its name out of the mud.  I loved each one of them.  They were very durable and reliable for me.  Today, it would appear they are letting their quality slide back into the mud so I would be hesitant to buy another, but during the years I had three outstanding Hyundais, I had friends who had lots of trouble with theirs.  Because my luck had been good, I did not dis-believe their tales of misfortune and trouble.  I was just grateful that mine worked and served me well.  My friends vowed never to buy another and I respected their choices.

For those who have not had the PL issue with their Wouxuns, fantastic!  I hope your good fortune continues.  As for myself, having bought around $3K in KG series radios and accessories for myself and friends over the last few years, I likely won't be buying any in the near future.  At least not until BTWR/ Wouxun acknowledges a problem with "some" of these radios and announces steps taken to correct them.

How many of you who claim no problems use the PL encode and especially the decoder?  How often do you use your Wouxuns?  Daily, weekly, monthly, a couple of times a year?  I use mine almost daily and frequently use PL even on simplex.  OffRoaderX, with the literal dozens of different brands and models of GMRS radios you have at your disposal, how often do YOU use your KG-series radios?  Doing a short video and playing with it two or three times before/after the video may not be enough to notice this problem.  Ditto the many who comment on here about never turning on the decoders.

[WRYZ926]

Well all of our club's repeaters use tone squelch so yes I use encode and decode everyday with Wouxun radios. The other local GMRS repeaters in my area also use encode and decode. My sample is small with only three mobile radios and two hand held radios from Wouxun. But I have not had any problems with encode or decode with any of them. For hand held's, I have a 935G Plus and a Q10H. I have two 1000G Plus's and one XS20G Plus. 

I understand how a lack of customer service can and will turn you away from a brand. I feel the same about Yaesu radios since they have a known issue with the USB ports on their FTDX10 and FTDX101 HF radios and refuse to fix the issue. Instead they want to charge $900 to replace the entire main board because of a few dollars worth of parts.

I also see the same when it comes to firearms too. Some will swear off anything made by Taurus or Hi-Point. I own firearms from both companies and they have never let me down.

To keep on subject. I have not heard of any issues with the tones on Wouxun radios until you brought it up here on this forum. And I am on many different radio related forums and also active on other types of forums that have a section for two way communications. I'm be no means calling you a lier or that you are not having issues. But if it was a more common or wide spread issue, we would here more about it.

In the end, go with what you like and also what works best for you.