Ailunce/Retivis HA1G Not Transmitting On A Repeater

[wahedrick94]

Just got the HA1G and it seems like a solid radio with great features. However, I cannot for the life of me get it to transmit on a repeater. I have triple checked all of the RX and TX freqs are correct and the CTC tones are correct. I can transmit and other radios within a certain distance can hear me, but I am not making it to the repeater. However, I tested this by driving to the repeater and still got nothing. 

What is interesting is that if I go to the preprogrammed repeater channels, RPT-3 has the same TX Frequencies but a different RX freq, it being a pre-programmed channel, I am unable to adjust the RX Freq. I programmed in the tones and when I hit the PTT, my voice did not transmit, but I get a tone from the repeater. So I know I am reaching the repeater and the CTC Tones are programmed correctly, but I can not for the life of me figure out what the problem is.  

This is the second HA1G i have tried. I returned the first because I thought it had to be a faulty radio..  

Has anyone else experienced the same thing? It is a shame because this is solid radio, but with out repeater capability it is practically useless. 

[BoxCar]

Are you certain you are on a repeater channel? Simplex channels are also on the repeater output frequencies so they look the same as repeater channels but don't have the transmitter offset.

[SteveShannon]

44 minutes ago, wahedrick94 said:

RPT-3 has the same TX Frequencies but a different RX freq,

Repeater frequencies are 5 MHz higher on transmit than receiver.  They have to be.

[wahedrick94]

1 hour ago, SteveShannon said:

Repeater frequencies are 5 MHz higher on transmit than receiver.  They have to be.

I can try that and see if it works, but I have never had to program them that way ever. My local repeater both TX and RX are 462.6000. All 5 of my other GMRS radios have no issues. 

[OffRoaderX]

1 minute ago, wahedrick94 said:

My local repeater both TX and RX are 462.6000.

No, it is not. You are very, very confused.

[wahedrick94]

1 hour ago, BoxCar said:

Are you certain you are on a repeater channel? Simplex channels are also on the repeater output frequencies so they look the same as repeater channels but don't have the transmitter offset.

Yeah I am certain. The one I can get a tone on (but my voice does not come across) is named "RPT-3" which the manual states is a repeater channel. 

I tried setting up a DIY channel as the manual suggests, and they way several YouTube videos instruct, and cannot get a tone. It is like it is stuck in Simplex I am not sure how to distinguish if it is or not. 

 

[SteveShannon]

36 minutes ago, wahedrick94 said:

I can try that and see if it works, but I have never had to program them that way ever. My local repeater both TX and RX are 462.6000. All 5 of my other GMRS radios have no issues. 

A full duplex repeater cannot transmit and receive on exactly the same frequency simultaneously. On a single antenna system the two frequencies must be different so the duplexer can prevent the full power of the transmitter from overwhelming and damaging the receiver. 
That’s also reflected in the regulations. We transmit to a repeater on the 467 MHz main channels and we receive from the repeater on the corresponding 462 MHz main channels. 
The only time you transmit and receive on the same frequency is when you communicate on simplex. 
That’s all preprogrammed on certified GMRS radios so you wouldn’t have to program it in. 

[wahedrick94]

3 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said:

No, it is not. You are very, very confused.

Okay I guess I am, after looking this is the only radio I have had to manually put in both TX and RX, the TX would just automatically bump the 5mhz up. 

Still a little new to GMRS. Thanks fellas. 

[OffRoaderX]

1 minute ago, wahedrick94 said:

this is the only radio I have had to manually put in both TX and RX

No, you do not, if you are using one of the pre-programmed, out of the box repeater channels.  if you are creating a new, DIY custom repeater channel, many radios will require you to know what you are doing and enter the transmit frequency and the off-set/receive frequency.

[wahedrick94]

20 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said:

No, you do not, if you are using one of the pre-programmed, out of the box repeater channels.  if you are creating a new, DIY custom repeater channel, many radios will require you to know what you are doing and enter the transmit frequency and the off-set/receive frequency.

Correct, tall the radios I have programmed prior have a repeater channel with the offset already preprogrammed. You just have to plug in the CTCs. I tried that with the HA1G first, and i get the tone after releasing the PTT but my voice does not come through at all. 

However, I am still having the same problem after creating a DIY channel with the off-set/receive frequency. I am less than a mile from the repeater so surely range is not the issue here? I did a test on simplex and could transmit over two miles away. Not sure why it is just not working on the repeater. 

 

[wahedrick94]

35 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

A full duplex repeater cannot transmit and receive on exactly the same frequency simultaneously. On a single antenna system the two frequencies must be different so the duplexer can prevent the full power of the transmitter from overwhelming and damaging the receiver. 
That’s also reflected in the regulations. We transmit to a repeater on the 467 MHz main channels and we receive from the repeater on the corresponding 462 MHz main channels. 
The only time you transmit and receive on the same frequency is when you communicate on simplex. 
That’s all preprogrammed on certified GMRS radios so you wouldn’t have to program it in. 

Yeah, it turns out I did not have the correct off-set freq inputted. However, I am still running into the same problem. I am going through the steps on setting up a DIY channel correctly. I can get a tone after releasing the ptt, but my voice does not transmit at all, I turned on another radio and stuck it in another room and my voice did not come across, so i do not think range is the issue. I am also less than a mile away from the repeater. 

[SteveShannon]

1 minute ago, wahedrick94 said:

Yeah, it turns out I did not have the correct off-set freq inputted. However, I am still running into the same problem. I am going through the steps on setting up a DIY channel correctly. I can get a tone after releasing the ptt, but my voice does not transmit at all, I turned on another radio and stuck it in another room and my voice did not come across, so i do not think range is the issue. I am also less than a mile away from the repeater. 

My suggestion is to set the transmitting handheld to transmit on 467.600 MHz. Don’t worry about setting a CTCSS tone. That will come later. 
Set your second radio to receive on 467.600 MHz and be absolutely sure no RX tone is set or required. 
Give the receiving radio to someone and have them go 50 or 100 feet away and listen. 
If they don’t hear you transmit one of the radios isn’t working.