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I just bought a pair of these radios for outdoor purposes and I am trying to connect to a repeater. I can't make heads or tails of it truthfully and need help. Repeater information: Frequency is 462.600 Input tone is 107.2 Output tone is 107.2 No permission required, the info is available to anyone on the map. I am looking to program it, but again I feel like I took off a bit more than I can chew. I am certainly a newbie at this. Thanks for the help!

I didn't say they couldn't buy it. Still doesn't make it right.

KrakenRF uses a unique technology which bends time and space to allow tracking of signals that were transmitted up to several days ago. By allowing repeated trips back to the time these transmissions were made, KrakenRF makes tracking of even single brief transmissions easy.

Two issues here: Mustering the posse and/or just getting the Kraken antenna array setup on the car and getting said car to your general location can take time -you could very well be long gone by then If you are SMART about it, keying only a few seconds at a time, then moving, it would be very difficult - if you only did it 2 or 3 times, it could event be impossible.. BUT - if you are having an ongoing conversation, even while driving or as in the case of the guy that I caught jamming one of our repeaters, continuously keying while driving, it gets easier. TL;dr: If you're smart, its nearly impossible.. If you're an idiot that thinks you are immune to being caught, it gets easier when using a Kraken. Luckily all of our repeater jammers have been idiots.

you got that right..I just ordered to Baofengs yesterday

I figured this out: Channels 15-22 are set to GMRS frequencies and you can enter a tone for the repeaters, but you are talking simplex so the repeater does you no good. To access a repeater you must be between Radioddity's channels 23 - 40.

everyyyyy time i say im done buying cheaper radios and i found the one i like.. someone points out one slightly better for basically the same monies... hmmm bank scanning would be handy [I do love my ar5rm though]

Ok, so I can clearly understand this, if I was driving around and I key up for about 30 seconds and no more than 60 seconds and the Sad Ham's Kracken pin points my location at that time, and I am still driving down the Boulevard and I keyed again a 1/4 or 1/2 mile down the road for another 30-60 seconds, and key again briefly some distance away and then stop keying, how would this Sad Ham be able to figure out who I was after I stop keying? Just curious how would they be able to continue the tracking after the keying stops. I likely doubt that anyone could muster up a posse that quick and go search for the person that was just keying briefly a few times and stopped keying.

Actually, yes.. If they are using a doppler type locator like the KrakenRF, it's fairly easy to do. I've done it myself. But again, the next question is "then what?"

What would happen if a scofflaw pisses off the Sad Hams while mobile? Will these Sad Hams be able to pin point who this scofflaw is while driving around?

Nobody has said that.. What many have said is, stop lying and spreading FUD that anything will happen if someone chooses to break the rules.. Big difference.

Yep, 50 ft, 100 ft or farther. Depends on how sensitive your radio is to desense.

If it's modem style noise that tone might actually be in there randomly and open up the squelch. I have a DMR signal that breaks through a DCS RX tone on occasion on 625 which is very annoying. I have my own repeater with a DCS tone for the repeaters TX (radio RX) and don't have the problem. So either the DMR transmit has that tone or somehow the DMR signal is activating the radio to open squelch. Very annoying.

Yes. That was similar to the remark by the VE I had talked to. He said it was a technical rule violation, BUT the FCC would simply ignore it and no action taken. I guess I should have explained it better. There is what the rules say, then there is what really happens in practice.

So......... Let Me Get This Straight. If There Are No Known Consequences For Actions By "Some People" Breaking Rules, Then That Would Be OK To Break That Rule. But If A Rule Was Broken That Is Monitored By YouTube Which Could Affect $$ - Then That Rule Should Be Followed. Or A Rule That Could Ban Folks From This Forum, Then That Rule Should Be Followed. Looks Like Another New Vid To Me - Rule Following By Choice Of Consequence.........

Great idea! That makes sense.

I occasionally hear people on MURS from two different retail operations when passing through a nearby city. Otherwise, I've never heard anyone on MURS. I have MURS programmed into most of my radios, but I haven't even keyed up on it since about 15 years ago when I had a pair of MURS radios. I have no idea now when or how they disappeared.

In the real world, it's difficult to imagine the FCC taking umbrage with someone who used a radio to save lives, regardless of the radio type, frequency, or the operator's license or lack thereof. IMO, the real point is that the FCC (and common sense, TBH) has a definition of an emergency. If your situation meets that definition, you're going to be okay. If not, you may or may not get into trouble, but you're still an a-hole.

Absent a formal agreement, it's very difficult for me to imagine a scenario in which I'd need to talk to a public safety agency on their own frequency. It's certainly not likely enough that I'd go to any significant expense or effort to modify a radio to do it. If I needed to talk to the police, fire, etc., and a cell phone wouldn't work, I could get on the radio and have some ham give me a phone patch or -- even more likely -- the agency could use a GMRS or ham radio they already have to talk directly to me.

Just for clarification: even then, statistically speaking, they wont do anything. and EVEN if you were the unlucky 1 in a million every-ten-year looser, all they would do is send you a mean-letter and tell you to stop.

Most people would point out emergency communications. However there there are some specific requirements that must hold. In the end it's still up to the FCC if they think the transmission was a rule violation or not. So, the safe answer is no. I had a short discussion about this with a VE once. He said it was a question people frequency got wrong. I even thought it was OK. The sections in the Part 97 rules I found makes no mention about unlicensed operators using an amateur stations in an emergency. https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/97.403 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/97.405

Oh, yeah, it's an HT. Well, probably nothing, then. But even if nothing happens, you're still an a-hole if you do it. Some people don't care, some are even proud of it, so options are limited.

Here we go with the 'I need to mod my radio so I can talk to the Po Po, just in case." This has been asked and answered many times. That rule means that you as a Novice ham operator can get on the Extra class frequencies if you hear someone there and ask for assistance in the event of an emergency. Hammies think it means they need to MARS mod every radio they have so they can talk to public safety dispatchers. And that's not it. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO HAVE A RADIO WITH PUBLIC SAFETY CHANNELS IN IT. So regardless of any means, you aren't suppose to posses those means to begin with. Ham radios are NOT Part 90 and are NOT to be modified except for MARS operation. Again, I am agreeing with Randy here. And still can't believe it. What is Joe hammie gonna do when he tracks down that evil deplorable wanna be that's operating on their beloved local hammie repeater? Are they gonna march up to their door and beat on it with their ARES badge and bandoleer of radios so they look like a dork version of Poncho Via? Are they gonna wear their ARES yellow vest and puff out their chest and with all that fake authority tell them to stop doing it? Or are they gonna really take it too far. Pull the guy out of his house and beat the hell out of him on his front lawn? Then find out it was his neighbor doing it as he's sitting in jail for felonious assault? Maybe he will send him an real official looking letter with the ARRL logo and even his local club logo demanding they cease and desist. Cause the FCC ain't gonna do much unless it's pervasive and they get LOTS of complaints

I dont think they can do anything to the handheld radio that OP has.

I assume "nearest" means "nearest to you?" ... If so, who sold you this radio programmed to the 50 nearest to you HAM repeaters, praytell? Did you ask for it to come that way?