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On 6/19/2024 at 12:05 PM, OffRoaderX said:
..nevermind...
Pretty good album!
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17 hours ago, JoCoBrian said:
So my field day plans are boofed...what are you all going to be doing?
I may have some time late Saturday to setup on the back pasture and run some FD CW....but that's about it.
MIne got messed with a house fulla out of towner's, might have an hour or two only to run out to our club site, but otherwise, spare moments to try some 1-D at home...
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21 hours ago, Davichko5650 said:
Edited my comment after your reply it seems. I did add drop the links. Hope the Notarubicon Center keeps us updated out there on YootOob
And he did not disappoint us! VG video this morning with the Club President out NY way. Seems the e-mail to the repeater owner is legit, he and the FCC person who sent it have a "working relationship" but the Club Prez would not elaborate. And he did state the club would not be supplying any callsign information.
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2 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:
I would do as @LeoG said, turn off the linking and keep the repeaters up unlinked. Then, with no possible violations present, have a lawyer contact the fcc enforcement department to find out if they sent an email.
Edited my comment after your reply it seems. I did add drop the links. Hope the Notarubicon Center keeps us updated out there on YootOob
- SteveShannon and WRHS218
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3 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:
How long do you wait for something that might never come.
Well, I keep waiting on that big Powerball win! But I'm thinking for the moment, in the absence of any official notice here, I would keeps things running status quo, or at a minimum drop the links and not reply to the e-mail.
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1 hour ago, LeoG said:
The only issue of calling them is it puts them right in the face of the FCC for them to scour over the situation which is something they may not even know exists if this is a prank/scam.
True. I'm thinking I'd wait for an actual Letter in the mail with an NAL.
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35 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:
I think several of us are waiting to see exactly what really happened. I haven’t heard of the FCC emailing someone telling them to shut down a repeater before. This sounds more like someone running a scam.
I rather wonder about this as well. I don't know of any Government agency that would send an e-mail notice of this nature. In a similar way that the IRS must notify a taxpayer in writing, via US Mail (registered/Cerified if it get to that stage) for it to be considered an "Official Notice". They do not call or e-mail people, people call them.
Unless the repeater owner was listening 24/7 and logging, there's not much chance they would know every callsign using the repeater, unless it was a closed system with limited, i.e. family & friends, usage.
I think my first step would be to call the FCC and make a determination to the validity of the sender. If someone is spoofing the FCC, or using this as a scam bait, I would think they'd like to know about it.
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11 hours ago, OffRoaderX said:
As per the User-Manual in pretty much 100% of radios that have a Call button, the Call button is to send an annoying noise out to all other radios configured in the same 'call-group', so they know you're about to start talking to them.. Think of those old Nextel radio-phones.
When I first got the Midland LXT600 FRS/GMRS HT's for use up at the lake where there's zero cell service, My wife seemed to think she HAD to push the Call button before she could talk to me out on the boat from the cabin. I quickly explained to her she could just push the PTT and start talking... I imagine it might be useful in very high noise environments where you may not hear people calling you, and the piercing tone would alert you? Mostly when scanning the channels, if I hear these, it's kids playing radio.
"It is about as useful as the 'Alarm' button on many radios."
Or a Roger Beep!
Sorry, couldn't resist!
- wrci350, catbrigade, amaff and 1 other
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58 minutes ago, WRQW589 said:
- A guy going hour after hour on one of the local repeaters. Nothing wrong with that -- if people are engaging and communicating with him, it must be interesting to them. But it tends to tie up the repeater between two people talking almost back to back without pause for a half hour or an hour at a time. Nobody know's the repeater's owner, from what I've heard. But it is extremely well placed, with a strong, high quality signal that covers the entire metro area.
- Radio checks and signal reports.
- Repeater nets, and simplex nets. The simplex nets are local neighborhoods doing a sort of emergency preparedness drill every week.
But the overwhelming majority of what I hear is kids playing with radios, and construction of some form.
Why do I listen? More interesting, while driving around, than listening to the FM stereo radio in my car. And somewhat mind-numbing background noise as I work from home as a programmer.
Good mix of users there! There's a clown on one of the local repeaters here who transmits, on weekends only so far, some sort of alarm protocol. "The loading dock doors are open." "The pool doors are unarmed." Etc. Another person likes to retransmit the local SPFD Computer dispatch info. Don't hear much feedback as there's not a lot of people using the repeaters. Have two nets we get here. The Family Fun Net, Saturday's at 6 pm local, and a couple nets on Sunday that trade off.
Definately more activity on the simplex channels, and channels 1-7 at that. But since I got into GMRS to talk pretty much to my wife and son, I' don't much use it to reach out to others. The occasional conversation with a random stranger, but I've got the amateur bands for those, LOL...
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10 minutes ago, amaff said:
So then what's the issue if they're not using GMRS radios but more than likely using FRS radios legally?
Wasn't trying to be snarky, btw, my fingers managed to hit the "send" button before the below comments:
No issue, just surmising their higher ups got them some cheapo FRS bubble Packers. easy to replace when (not if) they bust them. They're getting about 1 - 2 miles of range from where I'm hearing them, as the Bus Co's and the schools are at known locations. That and the lack of callsigns being used. Haven't bothered to do a ULS search to see if any of the users have a grandfathered Business license. Don't really care, just interesting to hear what's out there besides my own small group.
Actually had a decent conversation on one of the local repeaters this morning. Guy called out his callsign and "radio check", so I replied and we chatted for about 10 minutes. We tried Simplex, but he was on an HT with a mag-mount and about 20 miles out, so no joy.
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13 hours ago, SteveShannon said:
The IC-7300 probably has more YouTube videos explaining its features and operation than any other radio. It’s a great beginner radio.
Around here we call it "The People's Radio"!!! Have used a couple out in the field on occasion. Good radio, but not sure it's enough for a long time Yaesu guy to look at adding one to the stable.
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8 hours ago, amaff said:
You should do a quick web search on what frequencies FRS blister pack radios use...
Know these already, thanks!
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Just now, WRYS709 said:
A very representative sample.
I would add that if you go to your local Walmart's parking lot, you will hear much employee traffic on MURS, especially Blue Dot and Green Dot (MURS channels 4 and 5).
Actually driving by one over the weekend had a few WallyWorlder's on the lower channels, but that was a drive by, so not included... My son's work uses MURS but I generally don't listen there much.
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On 4/28/2023 at 11:54 AM, SteveShannon said:
Ideally no tones are set. Most users generally resent a manufacturer presetting CTCSS tones. Some manufacturers have occasionally been stupid however. There is no standard.
On the three recent radios I picked up for GMRS, only the Retevis RA-87 was preprogramed with CTCSS and DCS Tones. Botht the DB20-G and the GM-30 from Radioddity came with no tones!. Quick work with the laptop fixed the RA87. Deleted the tones on the shared channels, except the ones wifeypoo and I use, and corrected the repeater tones for the 6 local repeaters hereabouts....
- amaff and SteveShannon
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Attention grabbing Title, lifted from Tolkien!
But driving around town with the new RA-87, I have it set to scan the FRS/GMRS channels. Making occasional contacts on a couple repeaters and via simplex with a few friends as well as the Wife and Son. But mostly I'm hearing a few stations on the same channels during weekdays with some regularity. Located in St. Paul, MN for those who care. Here's where and what I hear very often.
Ch 1 - local kids teaching each other "radio etiquette" and otherwise chatting ("You have to remember to say over, over...")
Ch 2. - Dispatch and mobile for a DT hotel shuttle bus service
Ch 3 - Local restaurant, mostly in Hmong, with occasional bursts of English.
Ch 4 - Charter School, bus lady looking for buses and other such traffic. Also an occasional group of construction workers in the DT area.
Ch 5 - Local School bus yard office to yard workers.
Ch 7 - Factory workers of some sort. Foreman barking out orders with more than occasional profanity.
Ch 14 - Flagger Crew for the many street construction projects.
As you can see, most of the traffic is in the shared channels 1-7, but I seriously doubt these people are using GMRS radios!
What kind of consistent radio chatter are y'all hearing, assuming you're scanning around the channels?
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On 2/24/2024 at 7:15 AM, WRQC527 said:
"Any other networks" is not part of 95.1749 as it is currently written. Or any other network is found in a separate paragraph under the Operations tab of a different section of the FCC website and as has been pointed out, has been there for years. Al, the reading-impaired gentleman in the video claiming to be from the FCC, could not even bring himself to read the complete text of 95.1749. What 95.1749 and that separate paragraph say, and what they have said unchanged for several years, is this:
"§ 95.1749 GMRS network connection.
Operation of a GMRS station with a telephone connection is prohibited, as in § 95.349. GMRS repeater, base and fixed stations, however, may be connected to the public switched network or other networks for the sole purpose of operation by remote control pursuant to § 95.1745."The paragraph in the Operations tab, the "addendum", if you will, reads as follows:
"You can expect a communications range of one to twenty-five miles depending on station class, terrain and repeater use. You cannot directly interconnect a GMRS station with the telephone network or any other network for the purpose of carrying GMRS communications, but these networks can be used for remote control of repeater stations."
This rule, and the "addendum", if you will, under the Operations tab, seem to prohibit linking of GMRS repeaters, but there is nothing new added to the rules. In the video, Reading-Impaired Al from the FCC appears to be trying to intimidate the audience, but not with any new rules.
Balance this against the definition of "network connection found in 95.303:
"Network connection. Connection of a Personal Radio Services station to the public switched network, so that operators of other stations in that service are able to make (and optionally to receive) telephone calls through the connected station."
Nowhere in Part 95 could I find a definition of "other network", so the grayline continues???? The prohibition in 95.349 seems to be slanted towards not allowing autopatch or other types of phone patches to PRS radios. The regs of course predating the explosion of the internet. What is really needed here is a test court case, or a NAL being issued and the response thereto to maybe clear things up in the muddy waters we now have...
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12 hours ago, WRXR255 said:
Pretty much what it says in the title. I have a robust SW, MW with Upper and Lower side bands receiver, but looking into the radio side of TXing there.
I know this is a GMRS centric Forum, as why I just plopped it down in the Misc. area, but I suspect some of you out there might have something to offer in this area for someone looking to expand into that spectrum as well.
You did say "beginner in the Thread title, but any HF rig can be used by a beginner or an expert! But to look at basic, no frills rigs, one still in production is the Icom 718. Has DSP, but no many bells and whistles. Lacks 6 meters. Can't recall off hand if it does FM for 10 meters. Have seen a few at our monthly (non POTA) Hams in the Park gatherings here in the Twin Cities, and am impressed in the RX and TX from this solid rig.
Used, you'll be looking at things like the Yaesu FT-450D. Very excellent rigs for beginner and expert alike. It's the mainstay of my Shack and even were I to upgrade, it's never leaving! Internal Tuner, DSP, 6 meters, all modes. A soldier on digital modes. Other used, late model rigs to look for are the Icom 706G MkII.
If you're looking to operate mobile, my hands down recommend is the Yaesu FT-891. Have had mine in the truck just over a year now, and it's a solid performer. Lacks an internal tuner (moot point as I run the ATAS-120A tunable antenna) and is a bit menu driven, but the rx/tx results are very good. Older rigs in the mobile area will be things like The Icom 7100 (still in production?, I'm not a Icom guy) or Yaesu FT 857 - 897 - 818 - 818.
Hope this helps,
Dave WRJG283/ N0TXW
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On 4/27/2024 at 8:46 PM, WRXR255 said:
Otherwise until CHIRP gets the coding for this out of experimental, and it works and im not bashing CHIRP, im liking it.
It looks to be listed in the Baofeng area on the Odmaster App. I found the best $22 I've spent of late was the TIDRadio bluetooth dongle, makes field programming of Baofengs a breeze with the Odmaster app! Waiting for them to get the Beta for the Radioddity GM30 worked out to try that as well, although the CPS software from them was a snap to use. Basic difference between Chirp and using Odmaster is that Chirp displays all the data where with Odmaster, you have to open each channel's info one by one. But not having to lug around a laptop makes up for that.
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On 5/9/2024 at 5:43 PM, WRXP381 said:
Personally I have known many people that have retivis and I wouldn’t touch one with a 10’pole. But that’s just me. I don’t have and don’t know any one with a radioditty of any kind so I can’t say. I can say the kg1000 is a very good radio but it’s way out of my budget. I get along fine with 20w tyt 8600s in the trucks. But I need the water proof ability. They get abused, run and dirt roads all day in old harsh trucks, windows get left open in the sun heat and cold rain and snow. Remember also antennas are your friend.
I did go ahead and get the Retevis RA87 - works pretty well, okay Chinglish manual, but pretty intuitive to program on the radio. Much easier with the software on the laptop. Might go ahead and pull the trigger on the DB40 to compare the 2 since ORX hasn't seen fit to do a comparo for us on YootOob yet. If I do, which ever one I prefer or performs better will go in the mobile, the other will be put in the shack for base use.
So far, better RX and TX than the DB20 the RA87 replaced, a function on TX side of more power? But seems to have a better receiver than the DB20
I drive around with 3 friends it seems then, having the MXTA26 and a Comet 2m/70cm and a Yaesu ATAS120A on the truck. MXTA is on a mag mount, the other two on diamond K400 mounts.
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On 6/8/2024 at 6:25 PM, Adamdaj said:
Yep, I knew that!
Or we could have ORX release the Kraken sdr....!
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9 hours ago, WSDF270 said:
Hi. Just got my call a few days ago. WSDF270. Also KO4DNI. Been interested in GMRS for awhile. Finally decided to get the license since it's taking the YL some time getting her amateur license. I figured this could be helpful for us on our camping, kayaking and fishing adventures and be legal since we often get separated. I've found some repeaters kinda close to where we're going to be on our upcoming trip. Hopefully we will make a few contacts out there. Thanks for having me
Welcome aboard. I'm a bit in the same boat as far as the XYL goes, except she will never get an amateur license, absolutely zero interest in most any facet of the radio hobbies I engage in. But when we're way up north and there's no cellphones, she will use the GMRS radios. Work well for cabin to boat calls, and other such things. She also has started using them here in town around the house, beats yelling across the yard! As I just got a new mobile rig, the old one is going into service as a base at the house, and the older Midland MXT275 will be thrown in her car.
Enjoy, and best regards
Dave WRJG283/N0TXW
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19 hours ago, BigBangMachine said:
Purpose:
Stay connected for safety, as I'm usually out of cell range when I wreck my OHV/ATV/HarleyAnd as we know, that is WHEN and not IF, LOL.
We use GMRS here in MN when going off road at the OHV parks and/or off exploring logging and forest roads up north. Cell service is spotty out there. A lot of us use channel 7 in group runs, as well as channel 16. Also good that there's a couple repeaters with good coverage near a couple of the OHV Parks. Nothing to worry the Moab crowd about, but definately some good rock crawling to be had here, although that's not my bag as I run my daily driver.
Have fun, stay safe and SEND IT!
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9 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:
Thanks. My mistake. I read poorly.
No worries!
ARRL Field Day - This weekend
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Very nice! One club I'm in will be at their usual spot, a private airport and they run the full 24 hours, beams and dipoles and EFHW's galore, all modes. The other club I'm in does a City Park and they have to set up and tear down both days as the park is closed overnight!. Both pretty good groups, But if I get any time away to visit, it'll be at the airport - better food, and cold adult beverages allowed...