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1 hour ago, back4more70 said:
I would like to hear a call sign at the beginning of the transmission so I can address the person on the other end.
If it were a random contact, I would also like that. More often than not it's my wife, son or the couple friends I converse with locally and we know each other's voices well enough. On group rides, same thing unless there's a new driver who is licensed that we've not spoken with before. Again, as a general rule, I don't answer random callers on the repeaters or simplex freqs. I hear, not why I got GMRS. YMMV of course.
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2 minutes ago, WRXR255 said:
I IDentify as a Roger Beep
ID with callsign and then the Beep!
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7 minutes ago, JoCoBrian said:
It's an $11 radio...
Exactly why I didn't bother programming the set I bought. Cheap entertainment for the grandkids and if we're out in the garden at home, or in the mud on the trail, if one gets dropped, damaged, run over, whatever, no big loss!
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On 7/31/2024 at 9:24 PM, OffRoaderX said:
- Should I say my GMRS callsign when I talk by transceiver like radio amateur? -- Give your callsign at the beginning of your transmissions or at least once every 15 minutes
Slight correction ( and said with love!) It's nice to ID when you start talking, but the requirement is every 15 minutes and at the end of your transmission.
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10 hours ago, marcspaz said:
Bottom line, if some people make a hobby of it, then it's fulfilling the need of the licensee. If it's a utility for others, same thing, it's fulfilling the need of the licensee. As the service grows, use patterns will change, but ultimately it doesn't matter what is happening around the country. The only thing that matters is if it does what you need it to do.
THIS!
It's a bit cliche, but the old saying "you get out of it what you put into it" really applies here. Are you looking to explore what the service, as an adjunct to other services you may also be using or as a stand alone, can do for you in reaching out for contacts? Are you looking to keep in touch with family, friends, fellow travelers? Are you looking to explore how the equipment works and assembling the best working station? All this can be part of GMRS.
I can't speak for them, but my gut feeling is the FCC won't change, or at least not in a radical sense, the Regs. for the service. The explosion is licenses being granted may reach a peak and level or fall off, but those $35 fess coming in don't hurt them in the least.
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10 hours ago, OffRoaderX said:
Still waiting to find out what your source is for these "stacks of complaints"
As they (FCC Enforcement and Legal) folks pointed out in the "Chinese Buffet" video (sorry can't recall the actual title on YooToob) - complaints are not part of the official records; so other than having an inside source at the Overlords, we would not know the number or nature of the complaints they receive. They did say they get scads of "Jim and I were talking and Bob interrupted us" kinda things very often...
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16 minutes ago, RayDiddio said:
People seem to be gravitating toward them in the classic car collector sense 'round here. I, personally, prefer the Pacer or the Pinto (I like things that go boom) myself.
Had a friend with a Pacer - ugly outside, but pretty nice inside. I had an Ambassador - front seat folded down into a massive bed and the 390 V8 was a screamer even in that barge. But also a fan of Bugs. And Bugs are only air cooled, rear engine, anything else is a New Beetle only!!!
Then there's the Vega - good styling but man what a Turd, especially up here in Salted Winter Roadland.
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1 hour ago, Lscott said:
What does seem to be catching on there are the VHF frequencies used for their "radio controlled roads" notably out west.
https://radiofreeq.wordpress.com/2018/08/30/canada-vhf-ladd-channel-list/
I'll bet a lot of Ham 2M gear gets the MARS/CAP mod's for this use.
Saw a lot of that being used on some of the Ice Road Truckers episodes wen they were hauling in MB and NWON into places I've flown into for the walleyes. May have to revisit them as I never looked close enough to see what radios they used, but most seems to have a CB and a VHF rig in their rigs.
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9 hours ago, Lscott said:
Hummm… This could be the topic for another thread. GMRS seems to be mutating into a hobbyist type service. It seems the original primary intent by the FCC was a radio service simple enough to be used by ordinary people with basically no background in radio communication technology for their personal use, and immediate family members.
What "some people" (nod to Randy) like to refer to as "ham lite". I go with the service to effect commuications with family and a handful of friends/neighbors, but especially when up north where cellphones are spotty at best. Somewhat around town here, mostly on the HT's around the house. I go to other services for talking to strangers and friends in the DX world!
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Just now, marcspaz said:
What if I leave my FCC type approved wrist band at home? No close to said panties could I possibly get? Does antenna size matter?
We despeartely need your expertise over on the most excellent FB Group "a group where we all pretend to be amateur radio elmers" Randy would also love it as we really send up the "Some People" crowd!
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17 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said:
This is why it is very important to always wear clean panties when transmitting!
And your hands and feet dry.
BTW, after seeing the video on the new $11 BooFwangs, went ahead and ordered up a pair. Wonder if they can be programmed via Odmaster?
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44 minutes ago, WSDV836 said:
I am brand new to GMRS
I’ve performed many radio checks on various channels with no responses whatsoever.
I’d be grateful for any tips and tricks for a new user.
Many thanks.
Welcome to the world of GMRS! Sounds like you're on the path of discovery in trying out the radios for range. As far as not getting responses to your radio check calls, understand that, for the most part. Most people use GMRS as a point to point, short range communications service within a small circle of family and/or friends, and are not listening for, nor responding to, other users on the air. If you are receiving the other radio you have, you do know they work. So factors such as terrain, obstructions and antennae come into play for the amount of "Fars" you will get. He gets his share of grief from "Some People", but look up notarubicon on Youtube. Randy is a wealth of knowledge for both GMRS and Off-Roading.
Enjoy, check back in often!
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17 hours ago, MarkInTampa said:
I've been getting more spam calls now than ever.
I feel left out, I've been getting pretty much zero spam calls of late.
I do like that meeting idea, be sure to order up a few pizzas to be delivered at the meeting time!
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5 minutes ago, WRUU653 said:
John did you notice @SteveShannon mentioned that Bakersfield recently had an outage?
Twin Cities also did - KEC65 on 162.550 was off the air for a few days
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On 7/31/2024 at 9:41 AM, SteveShannon said:
Those I've seen of course. The WQUR589 I had and forgot to renew. Tried to get a waiver to get the call back when I did reapply, but a friendly call to the FCC and they explained I was better off just getting a new call. "It's GMRS, it's not like you're attached to the old call like you are to the Ham one, right? A waiver for a call re-issue is pretty much unobtanium" I must say, the FCC phone helpline is pretty good!!! And maybe I'm the rare one, but I've never had any problems navigating their online system when renewing for HA or ZA...
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On 9/10/2022 at 10:57 AM, KAF6045 said:
FCC must not be using sequential calls, or it has a separate pool (since class D/CB used to get the same AAA9999 format).
Not speaking to that here, but in 1976 I was issued KAUO6363 for Class D CB. Up until a few years ago, still had the paper copy I got from the FCC. Wonder how far back, or if it even does, the ULS archive goes for those?
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On 7/27/2024 at 2:40 PM, SteveShannon said:
Is CB underutilized?
Pretty active around these parts. Lots of stations on the upper channels, mostly LSB, but there's some FM happening as well. I'm close enough to a freeway, so I can get something on 19 most any time up to the wee hours when it'll die off.
But there's also a number of locals running on 27.535 just above 40 also on LSB that I can listen in one most evenings. Have an old friend from my previous employer who is a freebander up there on 555. Not once have I bothered with the "you know that's against the FCC regulations" speech. Not my job!
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42 minutes ago, marcspaz said:
Not sure what to say. I just use the radio. Every HF radio I have every owned, ranging in age from manufactured in the late 80's to still being made today, all have FM on every band from 160MHz to 30MHz. It has not been possible to make any adjustments to it... it just is what it is. In my entire life, I have never ever heard of anyone get a no-no letter from the FCC or even complaints from other operators.
I looked at my logs a few minutes ago. I personally have made over 1,000 contacts in the last 20+ years between 14 MHz and 3.8 MHz, all around the US in in over 30 countries. It's being done and it works. No fiddling is even possible.
Well as QOATIG will point out - or did, as have a few others on YooToob, the big money in enforcement is in Pirate Radio and Telephones. I'd think FM on the low bands is something they'd have to get complaints about before any action on their part. and that action would probably just be a "knock it off" kinda letter. I can't see them bothering. Based on that video with the FCC Enforcements folks at the chinese restaurant, I imagine their response would be, similar to what the one FCC engineer told a person in the audience who complained about 7.200 - "turn the big knob."
Only done FM on 10, but yes my FT-450D could do it from do it from 1.8 - 54 MHz, but I've got too many other modes I'm using at the moment to delve into that much.
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35 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:
Why do you think that, Kenny? Certainly it’s still defined on this page: https://www.fcc.gov/engineering-technology/electromagnetic-compatibility-division/frequency-coordination-canada-below
It's also still printed right on the License.
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20 hours ago, OffRoaderX said:
It has been universally agreed to by some, and decreed by the Queen of all that is GMRS that channel 19 shall be the unofficial Official Road Channel for GMRS.
So it is written, so shall it be done...
Bear in mind that "some people" will vehemently disagree and argue to the death against this, but just remember that they are wrong.
I rarely monitor any channels other than the specific simplex channels Wifeypoo and I use within range when travelling on-road. When on the road solo, if I'm using a two-way radio, it's on HF. Locally, it's also either simplex or a couple repeaters, but mostly only family and a couple friends, I don't go looking for conversations with random operators as a rule.
Off road of course I know that TQOATIG (pronounced - Quo Atig) has reminded us ad nauseum that Ch. 16 is the go to! Then again my Cheesehead friends over in Sconnie seem to like Ch. 7 for that.
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On 7/26/2024 at 4:39 PM, marcspaz said:
With limited exception, there are almost no rules on bandwidth on HF. The bandwidth limitations are typically defined by the modulation type authorized. Most of the HF radios that I've seen that transmit FM only occupy 1.8 kilohertz of bandwidth. Which is well below the common bandwidth of 3 kilohertz used for single sideband, and it works great. I personally have used FM as low as 3.85 MHz and spoke to people as far as 300 miles away without issue.
Again, not a bandwidth issue. Pt 97 says an angle modulated signal (fm or phase mod) cannot exceed a modulation index of 1. 1.8 khz at 3.85 Mhz has an MD of 1.465 according to the formula I've used in the past. Unless my slide rule is sticky? This is the reason for the amateur bands that FM is not very useable below 28 MHz. It can be done, but it takes a lot of fiddling with your gear to get that 1 or less MD.
Spelled out way down in 47 CFR 97.307 (f) (1)
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2 hours ago, marcspaz said:
Actually, FM is allow almost everywhere phone/voice is allowed on the HF bands. The only modulation restrictions I have ever found in the rules are on 60m where you must us USB for phone, and on 10m tech segment (28.3-28.5) and only if you have a tech license. Then, you have to use AM or sideband.
The only other restrictions I found specifically for HF voice is that the total bandwidth of a sideband emission with a B designation or a multiplexed image and phone emission cannot exceed the communications quality A3E emission. Which is kinda of stupid, but whatever.
I'm a bit rusty on the FM side of things, having studied it last circa 1978 (not counting whatever studying done on the Amateur Radio side of things), but I thought the limiting factor for FM below 28 MHz was based on the Modulation Index. For the most part, the band allocations below 28 aren't wide enough???
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29 minutes ago, Skunkworks said:
I'm having fun with old Kenwood commercial radios for GMRS.
However, most have limited or no Front Face Programming. What would you recommend for a cheap and small laptop to throw in a go kit to program in the field? I can put the programs and codes on a USB drive, but will a Chromebook or tablet be able to run them? Do I need to get a cheapy Window's machine? What are you using and what do you recommend?
Assuming you don't mind used, I've had great luck with used Lenovo ThinkPads from a couple gens back. Built like tanks, external batteries you can swap out. I've picked up 2 in last 3 years for like $65 or less off ePay (, I know, I know) loaded with Win10 Pro. Tons of them out there, but be sure to check the seller's info and ratings, etc. Used them to program with Chirp and various mfg CPS software (including my Kenwood TM-281 and a friend's TK-8180). They work very well in the field running Digital modes and RTTY on the HF ham bands, as wll as VaraFM on 2m VHF. Other than programming, have done zero with them for GMRS, I don't use it other than family and a few friends. They're both still running like champs, so very good bang for yer buck!
How are you notified by FCC
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People keep saying this. I must be the odd man out here as I've never had any issues using the ULS system for my licenses. Also have found the FCC phone helpline has some very good people on it. Super helpful and knowledgeable. Much better than dealing with my "friends" at a certain Dept. of the Treasury service!