Wow so again I ask why any one would ever buy a midland. 2-3Xs the price for a radio that doesn’t work out of the box. Has programming and software issues. Why, why, why. I’ve never paid any where near the money a midland cost, I use all my radios literally every day in all types of conditions, 20deg snow, sleet rain hail, 120deg, dust storms….. I’ve never not once ever done a firmware update and they have all worked right out of the box and still work like brand new. Again why? Takes 5min to hook up to chirp, rt systems or Motorola cps and I’m in business.