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Yeah that’s probably the next step. I’ve already contacted him about it and he said it worked when he pulled it so we will see 

Yeah well no surprise my opinion is unpopular. I just get that amateur radio has a lot of its traditions based on telegraph and while I get that and can even respect it, I don't think I am wrong for not needing it on gmrs. Gmrs isn't amateur radio. We all have amateur radio for amateur radio traditions and customs. I'll keep wishing people would leave the 73s and Q codes off of it. But when have I gotten what I wanted

Business Radio Service (Part 90.35) application is only $205 if you apply for itinerant VHF and/or UHF freqs to avoid the cost of frequency coordination, and these freqs can be Nationwide on one license.

No it is too many amateur radio operators taking gmrs and equating it to being an extra band to play on. I’m honestly tired of hearing QTH and 73 on gmrs. It’s just as easy to say LOCATION as it is to say QTH.
That and the stupid additional callsigns people like to use like the “tac” numbers on certain repeaters in Georgia. I already have a unique identifier it is my fcc given callsign. Won’t be saying my city name and random numbers along with it.
Thanks for reading my stuff that sucks about gmrs rant.

The system @OffRoaderX linked is 4+ hours from Stanton Island. If you look at the map you can see various repeaters in and around NYC but none are linked to my knowledge. Half the time they are filled with beeps, foul language and other voices. To my knowledge there is nothing that will get you to albany. My first option would be to be pick up your cell phone and install Zello if you want PTT access to your friend 3 hours north of you. GMRS is not the fix. 

Have you messaged or contacted @rdunajewski ? 

And the Circus was created.    I won't go as far to call you a 'Ring Leader'      😅

Thats your opinion Randy.....  Not always a safe one..   Sounds like your are promoting rule breaking,,, Are you?  

certainly a growing number of idiots willing to take a risk so you can talk to someone from your living room in New York to a friend in Penn.  (hypothetically speaking of course, for you anyway).  Some guys have 25-30 repeaters registered under their lic. Of course, since you and your friend (hypothetically) are talking 100's of miles apart, you have no clue how that is happening..  It's pure FM  -  right???   😅

It sounds like shop time.

Hummm… This could be the topic for another thread. GMRS seems to be mutating into a hobbyist type service. It seems the original primary intent by the FCC was a radio service simple enough to be used by ordinary people with basically no background in radio communication technology for their personal use, and immediate family members.

It is just another repeater and can cause headaches with other users. I definately wouldn't recommend this route
 

Of coarse it’s possible. It’s just adding in another repeater not really hard at all.  I wouldn’t trust hand helds to do the job very long but yes it will work. It’s what many law enforcement and fire do. They have a vehicle repeater in the car or truck that repeats from the personnel’s hand helds to dispatch. 

I'd stay away from setting up a repeater until you get some experience under your belt and a lot more knowledge.

Was just in Nashville last week and in Clarksville a couple nights and did not hear any chatter on any repeater frequency. Nashville 575 did pop in once but couldn't get back to it. 

Except you can't use simplex 19 either....
Exception: Licensees who operate North of Line A and East of Line C may not operate on channels 462.650 MHZ, 467.650 MHZ, 462.700 MHZ and 467.700 MHZ unless your previous license authorized such operations.  

You can put these on the Ham 33cm band with a software hack for the radio programming CPS. See attached file
MOTOTRBO too 927MHz Code Plug Mod.pdf

Except you can't use simplex 19 either....
Exception: Licensees who operate North of Line A and East of Line C may not operate on channels 462.650 MHZ, 467.650 MHZ, 462.700 MHZ and 467.700 MHZ unless your previous license authorized such operations.  

So can the small group of people not simply use one of the eight existing repeaters?

Ham type "rag chewing" drives me crazy.  If that is what meant by "hobbyist" then I try to avoid it.  I have found the best way to defeat these rag chewers is to change channels.  
Since I only use PL filtered channels for my communication needs I rarely hear them.  The only time I DO hear them is when I scan unfiltered frequencies.   Or when they are very close or very powerful so they bleed over on my channels.  For this reason I mostly use channels 1-7 because I can avoid 50w mobile/bases and powerful repeaters.  I have read that there are about 120 "standard" PL (CTCSS/DCS) filters.  If that is true then we have over 2,500 possible channels (freq + PL) (120 x 22=2,640).
I am in favor of these rag chewers because the more users we have the more options the manufactures will give us.

This is where many groups should really start.  The organization can pay for one commercial (or public safety) license for ~$300 (for 10 years) and be assigned one callsign that everyone uses.   As opposed to every member having to figure out CORES, FRNs, and pay $35 for a GMRS license.   
GMRS may have been used originally due to the low-cost radios, but Part 90 radios are just as low cost today. 
Eventually PII (Personally Identifiable Information) will be enforced for CERT and SAR organizations, and FCC rules permit encrypted transmissions on commercial and public safety channels.    And they allow for digital for greater clarity and capacity.  And they can be linked easily and without controversy.  And have slightly greater protection from interference, particularly if the groups chooses to use public safety catagory channels.               
Downsides?

Or just grab a RT97 for half the cost of the KG1000 setup....
KG1000 - $369.00 x 2
Duplexer - $150 (Fumie China Duplexer)
Various cable - N-PL259 (Radio to duplexer) - $25-50
Power Supply - $100....
Granted the RT97 is a high power repeater but 99% of the folks that will be putting up a repeater are doing it at home on a garage or house. The RT97 is a all in one box. Just program and turn on. Simplicity for many. And to be honest if you have a great location the repeater will do fine with portables. Just another option.
 

yup. Expecially if its remotely public safety. Over the years we have had hams join our SAR team and want everyone to use ham. They dont get that most members spend tons of time training on all the other tasks they do. The radio is a tool for them. We use public safety frequencies. We have multiple licenses for all over our area for this reason. I wouldn't put any of my SAR operations on GMRS or ham for that matter. I know some of the k9 folks use FRS for training but that the extent of it. 

Except you can't use simplex 19 either....
Exception: Licensees who operate North of Line A and East of Line C may not operate on channels 462.650 MHZ, 467.650 MHZ, 462.700 MHZ and 467.700 MHZ unless your previous license authorized such operations.  

Except you can't use simplex 19 either....
Exception: Licensees who operate North of Line A and East of Line C may not operate on channels 462.650 MHZ, 467.650 MHZ, 462.700 MHZ and 467.700 MHZ unless your previous license authorized such operations.