UncleYoda

https://www.kb6nu.com/fake-nagoya-antenna/ Authentic Nagoya NA-771G Handheld GMRS Antenna (15.3 Inch)

@LeoG I'm with you on how things should be, but I think Steve is closer to how it will be treated.

@Daedalus0101101 You seem to have it exactly backwards. Using a repeater from home is where the difference of opinion lies. A mobile in the car or a handheld with antenna attached directly to the radio (i.e. portable) are fine for repeater use.

I think it's goofy to say a base station is a control station when using a repeater. I don't know if the goofs are the ones interpreting it this way or the FCC for writing it like this. One thing I can point out with the wording is base station is not mentioned in the control station definition. My opinion is (1) a base station is a base station regardless of who you talk to, and (2) we can't resolve this ourselves to everyone's satisfaction - we need clarification from FCC.

I don't know if the team being assembled is up to the task, but the how is actually simple - stick to the Constitutionally delegated authority. If they did, FCC could only regulate Federal employees and Federal property.

@Hoppyjr that's what I was hoping for and hinting at in my Brendan Carr topic. If he doesn't improve the agency and regs it'll be disappointing. They made a big mistake letting digital take frequencies in the 2m ham band.

I'm not an engineer, never played one on TV. But connecting both wires from the radio to the battery with a fuse on the red wire has worked well for me. The only time I had a noise problem was with CB connected to the auxiliary cigarette-lighter type socket (is there a better name for those?). I have used other radios that way without a problem. (And this is on a Ram, V6, not much extra electronics just A/C and built-in AM/FM.)

It's DMR. Kind of what I expected. The links will be useful when I hear other junk.

Thanks, I'll bookmark that site because I can probably use it later. But none of those match what I'm focused on right now. The closest was MT63 but I've never heard of that.

Anyone know of recordings I could listen to (no videos) to identify the type of digital transmissions I'm hearing? The most annoying one is a fluttering static, but no squeaky modem noises. I'm curious about others too. This is data, not DTMF tones or anything similar (not CW either).

No, @LeoG that's not what it means. Messages are just information - there is no rule to stop that. In fact it is a standard part of emergency comms. Besides the example already given above, it does mean you can't have a conversation half on one service and half on another, as if I talk to you on 2m and you reply back on GMRS. (Short test messages like that are OK though.)

Forget the debate - you won't get much here that could be considered useful comments. And forget "national". Scale the idea back to your area first, then try to get it used statewide. I know this won't be satisfactory if you're traveling across the country, but it's a way to start that actually has some chance of working. Having a club that backs it would help but GMRS doesn't have many clubs like ham does. You could try to get CERT or some other organization to adopt it (local CERT here does direct traffic in emergencies so there is relevance). One thing that helps with all types of radio services is actually using it. People listen to and join in on channels/frequencies that have activity. So just do it.

If you want to transmit through the repeater, you need to use the repeater channel. Repeater input is on 467MHz. Repeater output and the corresponding simplex channels are on 462MHz. Yes, you are making it hard when it is really simple: use repeater channels for repeaters.

The channels function independently. The repeater channel has a 5MHz offset programmed in for the transmit frequency. So if both your display channels are set to the same receive frequency, the radio could receive on either one. If the repeater transmits an output tone, you can optionally set a receive tone to know when you're receiving from the repeater.

You could try Baofeng K5+ ... they seem very close and it is 10W tri-power, aircraft ban RX. I can't tell what if anything is different. The extra battery being sold for AR fits them both. It has 5RM as part of the ID #s on the inside back label. https://www.baofengradio.com/pages/download