A thorny repeater question...

[tcp2525]

4 hours ago, WSKK363 said:

This is my point to all of this. There is nothing that will stop anyone from using your repeater. Literally nothing will be done. No amount of quoting fcc will change this. I think I made it pretty clear to use repeaters maturely. But if people don't, again, the fcc will do nothing. 

Exactly, and there's no sense in arguing this point on the internet with people that have the sole purpose of arguing with you to burn time because they are bored.  Bottom line, if I need to use a repeater I will.

[amaff]

5 hours ago, marcspaz said:

Man, I can tell none of you have ever had to deal with this from the repeater owner's prospective.  I have.... I submitted so many complaints that I lost track, with evidence, about a specific person causing harmful interference for almost a year.  Almost all of my complaints went ignored (zero response) except for one.  The one response I got was that as the owner, it was my responsibility to manage who used my repeater.  So, they are off 99% of the time. And after several years, when this @$$H0l3 realizes my repeater is online, he starts jamming it again.  I can't leave it on for more than a day or two.  This isn't an "I think". "I heard", "the AI Overloads said so"... I lived it.

 

@OffRoaderX is the only other person I know that went through it, too... and he has told you his relatively similar experience several times in many threads.

Did you sue them for trespassing? I read somewhere that that works 

[amaff]

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[WRUE951]

58 minutes ago, tcp2525 said:

Exactly, and there's no sense in arguing this point on the internet with people that have the sole purpose of arguing with you to burn time because they are bored.  Bottom line, if I need to use a repeater I will.

And this is why I have capability of remote monitoring and remote kill.. So people like you won't because im the boss  

[WRTC928]

Boy, you go away for a few days, and the place turns into a circus! 

[marcspaz]

22 hours ago, WSDE760 said:

I thought that a licensee's responsibility under this section was ensuring that no one operating their station violates § 95.1733 Prohibited GMRS uses or § 95.333 Prohibited uses. 

I think there is a misunderstanding of what an operator is.  In the context of GMRS, the licensee or their immediate family are the 'operators' of the station being used with any given license.  In the context of a repeater, however, the remote operator who's signal is being relayed is not the operator of the repeater. The license holder of the repeater hardware is. The individual who holds the GMRS license is fully responsible for all transmissions made on the system, regardless of who is physically using the radio.  The license is a station license, not a user license.  While there are limits to who can use the hardware, there are no limits to how many radios can be associated with that license. The licensee is the operator who is responsible for the hardware. If it were any other way, no one except the licensee and their qualified family members would be authorized to legally use the repeater. 

By rule, the station operator (the primary license holder) must be at the control point for that station, actively controlling the communications executed on their station. Remote and automatical control are allowed, but that does not transfer the responsibility of the repeater owner.

If you read my "Change My Mind" thread, there is some other information that was published by the FCC as to why they do not require operators to get permission to use a repeater.

 

18 hours ago, amaff said:

Did you sue them for trespassing? I read somewhere that that works 

 

Its not possible. With the exception of 18.2-152.4 Computer trespass, all other Virginia trespass laws specifically indicate physical presence on real property. And 18.2-152.4 really relates to cyber crime, they just did a really, really bad job of naming the statute. 

[amaff]

2 minutes ago, marcspaz said:

Its not possible. With the exception of 18.2-152.4 Computer trespass, all other Virginia trespass laws specifically indicate physical presence on real property. And 18.2-152.4 really relates to cyber crime, they just did a really, really bad job of naming the statute. 

I know. I was just poking fun at the heavyweight legal scholars on the forum.

And to be clear, I'm in no way minimizing jamming or taking their side at all. 
But the trespassing argument going on in this thread is absurd.

[tcp2525]

7 hours ago, WRUE951 said:

And this is why I have capability of remote monitoring and remote kill.. So people like you won't because im the boss  

Exactly! Now you got it since there should be no argument or drama involved, just kill it. Your repeater and your responsibility. Good thing is you were kind enough to put it on GMRS and open it to the public, so that means I'll be using it till you kill it. See how easy life is when we set our ground rules. And it only took a couple sentences.

[WRUE951]

Hate to break things up but yesterday I was making a road trip out of town talking to a buddy through Ed's repeater and saw this..  I had to do a double take, a turn and snap a picture to share.  

[MarkInTampa]

40 minutes ago, WRUE951 said:

Hate to break things up but yesterday I was making a road trip out of town talking to a buddy through Ed's repeater and saw this..  I had to do a double take, a turn and snap a picture to share.  

Yesterday? Pic obviously taken from this TikTok video that made the rounds a few weeks back....

 

[amaff]

1 hour ago, WRUE951 said:

Hate to break things up but yesterday I was making a road trip out of town talking to a buddy through Ed's repeater and saw this..  I had to do a double take, a turn and snap a picture to share.  

imagine pretending you saw an AI generated sign in real life

[tcp2525]

2 hours ago, WRUE951 said:

Be careful,  funny things happen to people who intentionally 'pi$$' off people...  I've never lost a war yet. 

Nothing wrong with a good old fashioned pissing contest. You would not be the first to get a good spanking. It's all fun.

[WRUE951]

3 hours ago, tcp2525 said:

Nothing wrong with a good old fashioned pissing contest. You would not be the first to get a good spanking. It's all fun.

There hasn't been a 'first'.  Be careful.  

[WRUE951]

4 hours ago, amaff said:

imagine pretending you saw an AI generated sign in real life

imagine that  

[tcp2525]

11 minutes ago, WRUE951 said:

There hasn't been a 'first'.  Be careful.  

Yawn.

[tcp2525]

Holy crap! I just increased my rank to "Experienced". Does this mean that I can now use my  GMRS radios?

[HHD1]

Wow, some people get really worked up on here...  (cough, cough, Kirk, cough)    

[LeoG]

8 minutes ago, tcp2525 said:

Holy crap! I just increased my rank to "Experienced". Does this mean that I can now use my  GMRS radios?

Not yet paddewon. 

[WSDE760]

On 12/9/2025 at 10:12 PM, marcspaz said:

If you read my "Change My Mind" thread, there is some other information that was published by the FCC as to why they do not require operators to get permission to use a repeater.

I did, thanks.

Also, your link to: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-99-139A1.pdf was very interesting.