FCC PART 95 (G) SUBPART (C) PARAGRAPH 2

[WQAI363]

I don't want to assume either way, but from what I understood, cousins are not immediate family. However, the FCC seems to consider everyone other than cousins to immediate family.  I know what I have read, so did I miss something here?

The Licensees Family Structure as I understand.

1. Spouse
2. Children or Stepchildren
3. Siblings 
4. Parents & Grandparents
5. Aunts & Uncles
6. In Laws

I did not see provisions to allow cousins to be under umbrella. Unless the FCC defines Cousins as Siblings.

I am in now complaining, just wanted to see it I should go back and study the entire FCC Part 95 Rules and Regulations.

 

[back4more70]

If it was one of my cousins, I would tell them to get their own license.  Maybe I'm just bitter because none of them sent a wedding gift 

[WRQC527]

52 minutes ago, Adamdaj said:

 

The Licensees Family Structure as I understand.

1. Spouse
2. Children or Stepchildren
3. Siblings 
4. Parents & Grandparents
5. Aunts & Uncles
6. In Laws

 

 

So if Adam and Eve or Noah and Mrs. Noah had a GMRS license, we all would be covered. I think I'll re-up my Ancestry dot com membership and search for a GMRS licensee. It's worth a try. Save some moolah down the line. Every dollar helps, what with this inflation thing going on.

[SteveShannon]

1 hour ago, WRQC527 said:

So if Adam and Eve or Noah and Mrs. Noah had a GMRS license, we all would be covered. I think I'll re-up my Ancestry dot com membership and search for a GMRS licensee. It's worth a try. Save some moolah down the line. Every dollar helps, what with this inflation thing going on.

If they were still alive…

A license elapses when the licensee expires. 
Here’s the actual regulation:

2) Any individual who holds an individual license may allow his or her immediate family members to operate his or her GMRS station or stations. Immediate family members are the licensee's spouse, children, grandchildren, stepchildren, parents, grandparents, stepparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and in-laws.

[WRQC527]

36 minutes ago, Sshannon said:

If they were still alive…

A license elapses when the licensee expires. 
Here’s the actual regulation:

2) Any individual who holds an individual license may allow his or her immediate family members to operate his or her GMRS station or stations. Immediate family members are the licensee's spouse, children, grandchildren, stepchildren, parents, grandparents, stepparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and in-laws.

Dangit. There's always a catch.The government will always get their moolah.

[SteveShannon]

4 hours ago, WRQC527 said:

Dangit. There's always a catch.The government will always get their moolah.

Actually, the government will always get YOUR moolah!  

[Lscott]

15 hours ago, Sshannon said:

Actually, the government will always get YOUR moolah!  

Yeah, and our congress critters let them hire another 87,000 government employees to collect it from you too. 

[KAF6045]

22 hours ago, Sshannon said:

2) Any individual who holds an individual license may allow his or her immediate family members to operate his or her GMRS station or stations. Immediate family members are the licensee's spouse, children, grandchildren, stepchildren, parents, grandparents, stepparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and in-laws.

Essentially +/- two generations from the license holder.

And that is a great expansion over the regulation from the early/mid 90s... Which had the additional clause of having to be living in the same residence as the license holder (we're back to the large family farm situation again).

 

 

[WQAI363]

On 6/1/2023 at 3:56 PM, WRQC527 said:

So if Adam and Eve or Noah and Mrs. Noah had a GMRS license, we all would be covered. I think I'll re-up my Ancestry dot com membership and search for a GMRS licensee. It's worth a try. Save some moolah down the line. Every dollar helps, what with this inflation thing going on.

Yep, I guess the FCC didn't really have to list every relation category. I just didn't want to assume the FCC excluded Cousins, unless it's the four-legged relatives. LOL 

Thanks!

73 to All  

[Lscott]

9 hours ago, WRXE944 said:

You say that as if there is something wrong with it?

I doubt they’ll be used to speed up getting your refund check sent out.

[KAF6045]

17 hours ago, Adamdaj said:

Yep, I guess the FCC didn't really have to list every relation category. I just didn't want to assume the FCC excluded Cousins, unless it's the four-legged relatives. LOL 

Thanks!

73 to All  

So far as I interpret it, cousins are NOT included. The "spread" is more diamond shaped than hourglass shaped.

Grandparents
Parents and their siblings (aunts/uncles to licensee)
Licensee and spouse/siblings
Children and nieces/nephews (ie; children of licensee's siblings)
Grandchildren

(As I recall, "cousins" derive from the siblings of the grandparents")

Also recall that the licensee is the one responsible for the proper behavior of the users. If one of those family members lives too far away for reasonable monitoring, I wouldn't allow them to use the call-sign. So... the nieces living 60-100 miles south of me -- NO. The nieces visiting my brother (down the block, at most half a mile) -- YES.

[SvenMarbles]

Let’s be honest.. Nobody knows who’s your brother or sister or cousin on the air. If you’re on a ski trip with your “group” for a day and you handed out walkie talkies with your call on a label maker sticker on them, it’s not going to matter. I’m not confirming or denying if I do that or not, but there’s no use in getting that far into the weeds on that issue IMO..

[SteveShannon]

56 minutes ago, WSAK691 said:

Let’s be honest.. Nobody knows who’s your brother or sister or cousin on the air. If you’re on a ski trip with your “group” for a day and you handed out walkie talkies with your call on a label maker sticker on them, it’s not going to matter. I’m not confirming or denying if I do that or not, but there’s no use in getting that far into the weeds on that issue IMO..

It’s an individual choice. If you choose to violate the regulations that’s your choice. You’re correct in anticipating that nobody can discern by listening whether someone is truly your relative. 

But many people like to fully understand what the regulations actually say. That’s not “going too far into the weeds.”  If you’re not interested, just ignore the conversation. 

[ULTRA2]

On 6/1/2023 at 1:58 PM, Sshannon said:

Immediate family members are the licensee's spouse, children, grandchildren, stepchildren, parents, grandparents, stepparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and in-laws.

Since they are using your callsign you will be responsible for their action on the airwaves. If they violate the rule, you're the one the FCC comes after since it's your callsign their using. (Just as a reminder)

[SteveShannon]

33 minutes ago, ULTRA2 said:

Since they are using your callsign you will be responsible for their action on the airwaves. If they violate the rule, you're the one the FCC comes after since it's your callsign their using. (Just as a reminder)

That’s correct.  Not only that, but you are expected to control their operations.