Repeater network in Wyoming and Montana

[nokones]

3 hours ago, WRUE951 said:

GMRS Linked Repeaters are not legal.   HAM Linked Repeaters are..  Follow the rules. if you want to play with Linked repeaters, get into HAM..  These illegal linked repeaters are hogging up bandwidth...  

Hey Einstein:

Tell me what this rule mean if you say GMRS repeaters can not be Linked.

§ 95.1749 GMRS network connection.

Operation of a GMRS station with a telephone connection is prohibited, as in § 95.349. GMRS repeater, base and fixed stations, however, may be connected to the public switched network or other networks for the sole purpose of operation by remote control pursuant to § 95.1745.

[amaff]

2 hours ago, nokones said:

Operation of a GMRS station with a telephone connection is prohibited, as in § 95.349. GMRS repeater, base and fixed stations, however, may be connected to the public switched network or other networks for the sole purpose of operation by remote control pursuant to § 95.1745.

I highlighted what I think the actually relevant part is. They can be connected to a network so they can be remote controlled. Doesn't say anything about for the purpose of linking / networking repeaters together.

[nokones]

2 minutes ago, amaff said:

I highlighted what I think the actually relevant part is. They can be connected to a network so they can be remote controlled. Doesn't say anything about for the purpose of linking / networking repeaters together.

Copy that, but there is no restriction for connecting more than one repeater for being controlled remotely.

[amaff]

14 minutes ago, nokones said:

Copy that, but there is no restriction for connecting more than one repeater for being controlled remotely.

To control the repeater remotely. I don't read that to mean the same thing as "to be able to talk through networked repeaters", but to make configuration changes remotely, or turn them on or off.

[UncleYoda]

30 minutes ago, amaff said:

I highlighted what I think the actually relevant part is. They can be connected to a network so they can be remote controlled. Doesn't say anything about for the purpose of linking / networking repeaters together.

 Yes, for the sole purpose of remote control.

10 minutes ago, amaff said:

To control the repeater remotely. I don't read that to mean the same thing as "to be able to talk through networked repeaters", but to make configuration changes remotely, or turn them on or off.

IMO, your interpretation is correct.  But everyone has chosen their side on this and other rules and no one other than FCC can convince them otherwise.

[SteveShannon]

45 minutes ago, amaff said:

To control the repeater remotely. I don't read that to mean the same thing as "to be able to talk through networked repeaters", but to make configuration changes remotely, or turn them on or off.

You might think that, and in the absence of a definition I would agree, but the FCC defines Remote Control:

Remote control. Operation of a Personal Radio Services station from a location that is not in the immediate vicinity of the transmitter. Operation of a Personal Radio Services station from any location on the premises, vehicle or craft where the transmitter is located is not considered to be remote control.

And they define “Operate” in a way that seems to be more than the limited scope of remote control that you might expect:

Operate. Control the functioning of a Personal Radio Service station; in particular, cause a Personal Radio Service station to begin, continue or cease transmitting.

[amaff]

Yeah that sounds like some government language

[WRUE951]

6 hours ago, nokones said:

Hey Einstein:

Tell me what this rule mean if you say GMRS repeaters can not be Linked.

§ 95.1749 GMRS network connection.

Operation of a GMRS station with a telephone connection is prohibited, as in § 95.349. GMRS repeater, base and fixed stations, however, may be connected to the public switched network or other networks for the sole purpose of operation by remote control pursuant to § 95.1745.

The FCC and common sense will tell you sole purpose of remote access of operating functions of a station, I.e. turning up, turning down the station adjusting power etc.   just as it applies to HAM repeaters.   
what part of the following rule do you not understand 

95.1733 Prohibited GMRS uses.

(8) Messages which are both conveyed by a wireline control link and transmitted by a GMRS station;

[medic535]

Link it up!

Chevron Deference is dead, three letter agencies have ZERO power anymore to interpret law, they must go by the letter of the law.

Tell the FCC to show you where CONGRESS stated a GMRS system can't be linked.

[barntt]

August 14 2024 The FCC added that the Internet CANNOT be used for linking GMRS repeaters only for the control of a repeater   Do YOUR research People!

[back4more70]

On 8/6/2024 at 3:30 PM, medic535 said:

Tell the FCC to show you where CONGRESS stated a GMRS system can't be linked.

Except the FCC is not creating laws.  They are creating rules for the amateur / GMRS radio services, which are to be followed as a condition of being granted / keeping a license to operate.