UncleYoda Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 as in Technical Discussion, is dumb. We see replies before the posts they're replying to. Not everyone replying is directly replying to the OP. amaff, WRXR255, marcspaz and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRXR255 Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 (edited) Yeah, you gotta do a dance of getting to the OP post, selecting by date, then navigate to the recent posts. To me its a solution that was looking for a problem to be added to newer forum front ends, but it is what it is. Edited August 9 by WRXR255 Grammer - im on beer #2 so was needed UncleYoda and WRUU653 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxCar Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 2 hours ago, WRXR255 said: Yeah, you gotta do a dance of getting to the OP post, selecting by date, then navigate to the recent posts. To me its a solution that was looking for a problem to be added to newer forum front ends, but it is what it is. I agree. The current default sort by votes is IMO asinine as it makes following the thread extremely difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaff Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 It's pretty crap. And you have to do the dance every single time you look at the thread. Really stupid way to order a discussion forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveShannon Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 4 hours ago, UncleYoda said: as in Technical Discussion, is dumb. We see replies before the posts they're replying to. Not everyone replying is directly replying to the OP. No, the question is always on top. Second, as I understand it, people ask technical questions hoping to get an accurate answer and they benefit from having the most nearly correct answer voted to the top. WRXB215 and WRUU653 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaff Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 minute ago, SteveShannon said: No, the question is always on top. Second, as I understand it, people ask technical questions hoping to get an accurate answer and they benefit from having the most nearly correct answer voted to the top. Right, but almost no one uses the votes, and it almost always turns into an actual discussion, where having them ordered by 'validity' is not really helpful. UncleYoda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 minute ago, amaff said: and it almost always turns into a pissing match to see who thinks they're the smartest in the room There, I fixed that for you. WRUU653, WRXR255 and SteveShannon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaff Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 Also that, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveShannon Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 11 minutes ago, amaff said: Right, but almost no one uses the votes, and it almost always turns into an actual discussion, where having them ordered by 'validity' is not really helpful. So, use the votes and pass the word so others do also. WRXB215 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRKC935 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 Yeah, the idea of the voted answer being on top just below the question is it's HOPEFULLY the most correct answer. The idea behind that is again HOPEFULLY someone will search for the question they have and if someone else has already ask it, which is typically the case. It will talke them to the question where someone else ask it and then give them the answer. Last HOPEFULLY, that will fill their request with out asking the same stuff over and over. But that is almost as rare as people getting their posts voted up the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcspaz Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, OffRoaderX said: There, I fixed that for you. If I'm the smartest guy in the room, its probably because I'm alone. WRQC527, WRUU653 and SteveShannon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleYoda Posted August 10 Author Report Share Posted August 10 11 hours ago, SteveShannon said: No, the question is always on top. Second, as I understand it, people ask technical questions hoping to get an accurate answer and they benefit from having the most nearly correct answer voted to the top. I didn't say anything about the OP not being on top. But replies to replies do drift from the original post. I've never seen a forum category handled this way and IMO there is little to no benefit to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcspaz Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, UncleYoda said: I didn't say anything about the OP not being on top. But replies to replies do drift from the original post. I've never seen a forum category handled this way and IMO there is little to no benefit to it. There are a lot of technical forums were they offer this service. A user posts a question to a problem and the correct answer (the one used to resolve the problem) gets voted as the correct answer and moved just below the question post. It's very common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleYoda Posted August 10 Author Report Share Posted August 10 I have seen it on other types of sites (Q&A, Reddit) but not standard forum software (Vbulletin, etc.) which is categorized, threaded topics. Anyway, it's no longer an issue for me; I'm done with posting in that section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQC527 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 22 hours ago, UncleYoda said: as in Technical Discussion, is dumb. We see replies before the posts they're replying to. Not everyone replying is directly replying to the OP. Sorting by votes often gets weaponized, if you will. I've seen it quite often. Some people post things that are so off-topic, so irritating, or so irrelevant that they get down-voted to the bottom of the pile. Or they're just so universally disliked that anything they post gets down-voted. It's sort of a passive-aggressive way to fight back anonymously. It's the MyGMRS equivalent of getting voted off the island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleYoda Posted August 10 Author Report Share Posted August 10 I mostly agree, but I do not see the off-topic or irritating (especially useless wisecracks) getting voted down or ganged-up on in the sections that don't have voting. I hate all the BS that is allowed to be posted here. It makes this site just a playground for the forum regulars and drives other people away. But I'm putting them all on ignore (only works though if logged in). I really don't need this forum anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcspaz Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 I will only vote down an answer if it is not only wrong, but could possibly cause problems for people who don't know any better and try to use the bad information. And yes, the ignore feature is pretty handy. WRUU653 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQC527 Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, UncleYoda said: I do not see the off-topic or irritating (especially useless wisecracks) getting voted down or ganged-up on in the sections that don't have voting. Mayhaps that's because there is no voting in those sections. And yes, there is ganging up on some folks in sections that don't have voting. Just recently there was some hillbilly who came in here ranting about how he wasn't interested in following any FCC rules. He pretty quickly went away because he was ganged up on, in addition to being thrown out of his repeater club after 48 hours and ending up on a number of ignore user lists here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 6 minutes ago, WRQC527 said: there was some hillbilly We prefer the term "Geographically-challenged rural lifestyle enthusiast". thank you for your understanding and compassion. WRQC527 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQC527 Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 3 hours ago, OffRoaderX said: We prefer the term "Geographically-challenged rural lifestyle enthusiast". thank you for your understanding and compassion. Thanks Jethro, I'll make a note of it. By the way, do you know how we know toothpaste was invented by geographically-challenged rural lifestyle enthusiasts? Because otherwise it would be called teethpaste. OffRoaderX, WRUU653, GP62 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRXB215 Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 Stackoverflow is a technical discussion forum. It uses a voting system just like @SteveShannon described and it is working just fine. Nothing wrong with having just one area on this site with the same voting system. And as someone pointed out, you can still sort by date/time. SteveShannon and WRUU653 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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