Rulander Posted October 4 Report Posted October 4 So my county, and 4 other surrounding counties repeaters have been off the map for a month or so. Today, I opened the map and they're all back on. However, they are all listed with no tones, as opposed to the tones they had before. All have the same owner, and are stated as being a part of a network. I'm fairly new to this so I have no idea what that means, or why you would have a repeater with no privacy tones. This is South West of Fort Worth by the way. Quote
Socalgmrs Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 I’d bet they do have tones. Just might have to ask. also I know some radios makers call them privacy tones but there is nothing private about them. A know of a few repeaters with no tones. It just gets confusing because you hear everything on rx. RayDiddio 1 Quote
Rulander Posted October 5 Author Report Posted October 5 9 minutes ago, WRXP381 said: I’d bet they do have tones. Just might have to ask. also I know some radios makers call them privacy tones but there is nothing private about them. A know of a few repeaters with no tones. It just gets confusing because you hear everything on rx. Yeah, I'm not sure. Each listing says input tone "none", and output tone "none". Just curious if that's common, or if not, why would it be listed as such Quote
OffRoaderX Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 Maybe they are trying to keep it private. RayDiddio 1 Quote
RayDiddio Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 9 minutes ago, Rulander said: Yeah, I'm not sure. Each listing says input tone "none", and output tone "none". Just curious if that's common, or if not, why would it be listed as such Just hit the ask permission button and see if they are trying to be more private by changing tones. Quote
Rulander Posted October 5 Author Report Posted October 5 3 minutes ago, RayDiddio said: Just hit the ask permission button and see if they are trying to be more private by changing tones. They're all open status. No permission required. Quote
RayDiddio Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 29 minutes ago, Rulander said: They're all open status. No permission required. The point is that it may have changed... Quote
SvenMarbles Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 It would be very strange for a repeater to operate toneless. All kinds of RF crap would get through and be annoying. amaff and RayDiddio 2 Quote
WRYZ926 Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 11 minutes ago, SvenMarbles said: It would be very strange for a repeater to operate toneless. All kinds of RF crap would get through and be annoying. Yes it is annoying. There is one repeater near me that does not run any tones. RayDiddio and Raybestos 2 Quote
Rulander Posted October 5 Author Report Posted October 5 1 hour ago, RayDiddio said: The point is that it may have changed... I just picked up some traffic on one of the repeaters and did a tone scan. It appears that the original tone for that repeater hasn't changed. I just can't figure out why it's listed as no tone. Also, what is a network of repeaters? Not trying to sound dumb, I just don't understand a lot of this as of yet. Quote
gortex2 Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 Were you logged in to the site. Normally if your not logged in tones will not show up. SvenMarbles 1 Quote
SvenMarbles Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 8 hours ago, Rulander said: I just picked up some traffic on one of the repeaters and did a tone scan. It appears that the original tone for that repeater hasn't changed. I just can't figure out why it's listed as no tone. Also, what is a network of repeaters? Not trying to sound dumb, I just don't understand a lot of this as of yet. It seems like you're understanding it fine. You're aware of how tones work, and even know how to run a tone scan. So the issue is that when you key up the repeater using that same done, you don't get in? It could be a split tone. The tone scan is only going to tell you what the outgoing tone from the repeater is. Often times the input tone is something different. RayDiddio 1 Quote
nokones Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 It may not be the norm but they do exist throughout the country usually in way far out locations away from other repeaters. Although, I believe a no-tone repeater still exist in Orange County CA if it is still active. RayDiddio 1 Quote
RayDiddio Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 11 hours ago, Rulander said: I just picked up some traffic on one of the repeaters and did a tone scan. It appears that the original tone for that repeater hasn't changed. I just can't figure out why it's listed as no tone. Also, what is a network of repeaters? Not trying to sound dumb, I just don't understand a lot of this as of yet. The tone scan will only give you the downlink tone, not the uplink. Key up on the repeater, does it squelch back to you? Quote
RayDiddio Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 12 hours ago, SvenMarbles said: It would be very strange for a repeater to operate toneless. All kinds of RF crap would get through and be annoying. 12 hours ago, WRYZ926 said: Yes it is annoying. There is one repeater near me that does not run any tones. I have one repeater using no tones near me that is not listed here on the site. I found it on my SDS100 one day. All kinds of mess going on there so I never use it. Quote
Rulander Posted October 5 Author Report Posted October 5 1 hour ago, RayDiddio said: The tone scan will only give you the downlink tone, not the uplink. Key up on the repeater, does it squelch back to you? Yes sir, i was able to talk to that one repeater that is approx 40 miles away just fine. Quote
RayDiddio Posted October 5 Report Posted October 5 7 hours ago, Rulander said: Yes sir, i was able to talk to that one repeater that is approx 40 miles away just fine. Then it is clearly just not updated on the map/in the database. Maybe reach out to the repeater owner and see what's up? Quote
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