GMRS repeater - narrow vs wideband

[WRXR374]

Some sources say that certain repeaters near me are narrowband.  I realized all were set as wide.  I'm fixing now, but what effect would having that wrong have?

[kidphc]

Audio would have been quieter. Like the mic gain was too low.

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[WRPG745]

If you are transmitting wide band, you would probably sound a little loud and maybe scratchy or clipped to the narrow band receivers.

(there you go 2 opposite answers!)

[kidphc]

If you are transmitting wide band, you would probably sound a little loud and maybe scratchy or clipped to the narrow band receivers.
(there you go 2 opposite answers!)

Well to be fair I was trying to be generic with the answer.

If you are wide they are narrow. You would sound loud to them. They would sound like they are under deviating and need to turn the mic gain up or yell into the mic

Going through the repeater (set to narrow) it would really matter if you were wide banded. The repeater would clip the audio and retransmit as narrow and sound a bit to quiet.

Sound fidelity wise, wide sounds more natural where narrow there is often clipping of the highs and lows.

There is just more bandwidth to play with. Think playing music at 40bits vs 256 bits.

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[WRXL702]

If The Repeater Is Set At Narrow Band (12.5 KHz) & You Are Transmitting Into That Repeater Wide Band (25 KHz) - Over 50% Of Your Audio Will Be "Clipped" & Will Sound Extremely Quiet, Depending  Distance .

[WRXL702]

Think I Would Check "Sources."

Most GMRS Repeaters Are On Wide Band.

Might Be Watching Too Much "You Tube."

[WRXR374]

3 minutes ago, WRXL702 said:

Think I Would Check "Sources."

Most GMRS Repeaters Are On Wide Band.

Might Be Watching Too Much "You Tube."

In this case, the "source" is the org that runs the repeaters   I'd just never noticed, because most repeaters don't mention (and are wideband)

[WRXL702]

As I Stated - Check With The Source Of The Station Parameters.

This Is A Question That Should Be Addressed To The Repeater Owner - Source.

Really Not A Forum Q&A Discussion. 

[WRPG745]

1 hour ago, WRXR374 said:

In this case, the "source" is the org that runs the repeaters   I'd just never noticed, because most repeaters don't mention (and are wideband)

yeah, I would never have thought to run a repeater as narrowband (vs the 20kHz convention), but perhaps they have a reason or thought process.  It would be interesting to hear why they run narrowband.  I don't own a repeater and have never set one up, but I do enjoy bits of useless info! Let us know if you get any feedback.

[gortex2]

I run 3 of my repeaters as narrowband repeaters. They are out there. 

[kidphc]

I run 3 of my repeaters as narrowband repeaters. They are out there. 

Reasoning?

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[gortex2]

On 11/11/2024 at 7:34 AM, kidphc said:

Reasoning?

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All my users on those repeaters use older Midland gear. Works very well for their useage. Even my APX stuff has both narrow and wideband to accomidate when needed. One of the repeaters has been like that for almost 15 years. 

[WRXB215]

As you can derive from @gortex2 post, narrowband isn't really a bad thing. You just have to use what the repeater is using.

[WRYS709]

Historically, narrow-band GMRS repeaters are used as private repeaters, or with semi-private portable repeaters used off-road for compatibility with easy to purchase FRS HTs.

When repeaters are stationary and open, they are normally set to wide-band.

Even Midland recognized that the times, they are a'changing!