WRUU653 Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 @Raybestos, I appreciate you taking the time to respond and can relate to the experience in other products where I have had issues where others have not. I have not had any issues with tones on my Wouxun radios. I have the S88G, 935G plus, UV9PX, Q10H and now the 935H. I use them all with tones on repeaters, not so much on simplex. I certainly haven’t used every tone there is, though I did go and test the two you mentioned with no issues. You asked how often do people use tones and how often do they use their radios. Are you saying that the radios have trouble with tones after extended use? I would have expected if there was an issue with a particular tone it would be there from the start but I really don’t know. I do have decode set for most of my repeater entries so if the radio is on then I’m using it and they are on a lot. Sorry to hear about your experience and yeah I agree that customer service can put you off a brand. SteveShannon and Raybestos 2 Quote
Raybestos Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 18 minutes ago, WRUU653 said: @Raybestos, I appreciate you taking the time to respond and can relate to the experience in other products where I have had issues where others have not. I have not had any issues with tones on my Wouxun radios. I have the S88G, 935G plus, UV9PX, Q10H and now the 935H. I use them all with tones on repeaters, not so much on simplex. I certainly haven’t used every tone there is, though I did go and test the two you mentioned with no issues. You asked how often do people use tones and how often do they use their radios. Are you saying that the radios have trouble with tones after extended use? I would have expected if there was an issue with a particular tone it would be there from the start but I really don’t know. I do have decode set for most of my repeater entries so if the radio is on then I’m using it and they are on a lot. Sorry to hear about your experience and yeah I agree that customer service can put you off a brand. Hi WRUU653, and thank you for your understanding of the situation. The problem does seem to be intermittent, for the most part. I have experienced it in areas with that are likely saturated with RF and areas that are very unlikely to be saturated with RF. As most people know, intermittent problems are among the most difficult to diagnose and fix, especially with regard to electronics. The 905G's were particiularly bad with 250.3 and 254.1 tones but occasionally were problematic with others such as 210.7. My 935G Series radios have exhibited issues with 141.3, which again, can be quite irregular. WRUU653 1 Quote
Socalgmrs Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 I can’t stand wouxons. My self and every one I know has issues with them. They don’t hold up to hard daily use. They have programming issues. I do not in any way understand why they are so popular. They cost 3xs what a better radio costs. I wish they would go away. Jaay and WSEZ 1 1 Quote
OffRoaderX Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Socalgmrs said: I can’t stand wouxons. My self and every one I know has issues with them I thought it was the Midland radios that you, and everyone you know has issues with? Seems like you and "everyone you know" has issues with a lot of radios...I recall you once posting a comment proclaiming that "everyone you know" always throws their Midland radios directly into the trash right after they buy them.. So I am pretty sure that anyone that has read your previous posts (including before you changed your forum-name to hide from ridicule), already disregards anything you say.. I have owned 30+ Wouxun radios, Wouxun radios were my primary radios in both of my Jeeps for several years, and I have a dozen or more friends/off-roading acquaintances that that use them - probably around 100 in total, and never, once, ever, have I, or anyone I know had any significant issue with any of them. WRYZ926, SteveShannon, WSEZ and 2 others 3 2 Quote
WRYZ926 Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 On 2/14/2025 at 12:08 PM, OffRoaderX said: I thought it was the Midland radios that you, and everyone you know has issues with? Seems like you and "everyone you know" has issues with a lot of radios...I recall you once posting a comment proclaiming that "everyone you know" always throws their Midland radios directly into the trash right after they buy them.. So I am pretty sure that anyone that has read your previous posts (including before you changed your forum-name to hide from ridicule), already disregards anything you say.. I have owned 30+ Wouxun radios, Wouxun radios were my primary radios in both of my Jeeps for several years, and I have a dozen or more friends/off-roading acquaintances that that use them - probably around 100 in total, and never, once, ever, have I, or anyone I know had any significant issue with any of them. He likes those old commercial radios that you have to dig up an old MS DOS or Windows 3.1 computer in order to program them. And yes most of us do not pay much attention to him no matter what user name he uses. Plenty of people in my local club have Wouxun radios for both amateur bands and GMRS. No one has had any issues with all of the different Wouxun radios. SteveShannon, OffRoaderX, WRHS218 and 1 other 3 1 Quote
radiozip Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 I'll add to the anecdotal Wouxon thread here. No PL issues with these Wouxon radios I've had, KG-UV3D bought new at the Dayton hamfest 12+ years ago. Charger base croaked after 5 years though. KG-805G bought new around 5 years ago, everything going great even with a cracked screen. KG-935G bought new around 2 years ago, no issues. OffRoaderX, WRUU653, Jaay and 2 others 5 Quote
WRYZ926 Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 It seems to me that someone is forgetting the 10% rule or the operator head space and timing is off. WSEZ 1 Quote
AntonioCm1983 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 On 2/13/2025 at 7:04 AM, Raybestos said: Hi Guys! Sorry ot took me so long to get back to you. It has been a very hectic week for me. Every model of Wouxun ht I have owned has exhibited issues with its PL encode and/or decode algorithm. The worst were the KG905G's. I had two and, before I knew there was a problem, bought two more for some good friends. Some times, some frequencies, using some PL codes, they either failed to properly encode or decode using the same PL on the same frequency. You could try communicating simplex using certain tones and, depending on individual radios, the PL would not open on one or more of the radios in use when in literal line-of-sight with each other. I believe I experienced this with 250.3 and/ or 254.1. Frequencies and encode/decode tones were checked, double checked, and re-checked. The problem persisted. I have had this or similar issues with KG935G (which sounds to be about a KHz or more off-frequency transmitted and received), KG935G+, KG1000G+, and KGS88G radios, owned by myself and/or friends. For those of you who have never encountered these problems, I am sincerely glad for you. Maybe I received radios from lots from the days the people in the Chinese labor camps were not fed or watered well, or maybe not beaten severely enough, to produce the quality of product you guys enjoy. Just because your radios have worked well does not mean that others have not experienced problems as I describe. Some people have bought Dodge automobiles for decades and never had a problem. Others never had a Dodge that was anything but trouble. Ditto Fords, Chevys, and other brands. Me, I had three Hyundais in a row, starting in 2000, when the company began trying to pull its name out of the mud. I loved each one of them. They were very durable and reliable for me. Today, it would appear they are letting their quality slide back into the mud so I would be hesitant to buy another, but during the years I had three outstanding Hyundais, I had friends who had lots of trouble with theirs. Because my luck had been good, I did not dis-believe their tales of misfortune and trouble. I was just grateful that mine worked and served me well. My friends vowed never to buy another and I respected their choices. For those who have not had the PL issue with their Wouxuns, fantastic! I hope your good fortune continues. As for myself, having bought around $3K in KG series radios and accessories for myself and friends over the last few years, I likely won't be buying any in the near future. At least not until BTWR/ Wouxun acknowledges a problem with "some" of these radios and announces steps taken to correct them. How many of you who claim no problems use the PL encode and especially the decoder? How often do you use your Wouxuns? Daily, weekly, monthly, a couple of times a year? I use mine almost daily and frequently use PL even on simplex. OffRoaderX, with the literal dozens of different brands and models of GMRS radios you have at your disposal, how often do YOU use your KG-series radios? Doing a short video and playing with it two or three times before/after the video may not be enough to notice this problem. Ditto the many who comment on here about never turning on the decoders. I just got My Wouxun KG-935H and It recives Just fine on Every frequency from ham all the way up to Gmrs and murs But I belive it has A Encode and Decode issue because mine will not TX on any frequency period So not everyone gets a radio that works i have had mine 1 day I have check re checked and checked again hundreds if times through Software from BTWR as well as Chirp Software Using the KG-935G Plus interface to scan it all frequencies and Tones are set Correctly all other radios tranmisit to all repeaters tested with the same PL Tones Between other radios and the KG-935H it just will not hit a repeater will not TX at all It hears fine on everything so I belive its a defective radio. I do wish that btwr had a better solution then just send jt back we will test it and if it test fine we will charge you for waiting our time and also charge you to send your radio back they assumed I was a idiot because they asked me questions like it was user error on why it wouldn't work. Raybestos 1 Quote
SteveShannon Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, AntonioCm1983 said: I just got My Wouxun KG-935H and It recives Just fine on Every frequency from ham all the way up to Gmrs and murs But I belive it has A Encode and Decode issue because mine will not TX on any frequency period So not everyone gets a radio that works i have had mine 1 day I have check re checked and checked again hundreds if times through Software from BTWR as well as Chirp Software Using the KG-935G Plus interface to scan it all frequencies and Tones are set Correctly all other radios tranmisit to all repeaters tested with the same PL Tones Between other radios and the KG-935H it just will not hit a repeater will not TX at all It hears fine on everything so I belive its a defective radio. I do wish that btwr had a better solution then just send jt back we will test it and if it test fine we will charge you for waiting our time and also charge you to send your radio back they assumed I was a idiot because they asked me questions like it was user error on why it wouldn't work. Are you trying to transmit on GMRS or ham frequencies? If you are certain it’s not user error send it in. If you are not certain enough to send it in then don’t take it personally if they ask you questions meant to determine whether it is user error. Probably the vast majority of problems they see are. Jaay 1 Quote
Jaay Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, AntonioCm1983 said: I just got My Wouxun KG-935H and It recives Just fine on Every frequency from ham all the way up to Gmrs and murs But I belive it has A Encode and Decode issue because mine will not TX on any frequency period So not everyone gets a radio that works i have had mine 1 day I have check re checked and checked again hundreds if times through Software from BTWR as well as Chirp Software Using the KG-935G Plus interface to scan it all frequencies and Tones are set Correctly all other radios tranmisit to all repeaters tested with the same PL Tones Between other radios and the KG-935H it just will not hit a repeater will not TX at all It hears fine on everything so I belive its a defective radio. I do wish that btwr had a better solution then just send jt back we will test it and if it test fine we will charge you for waiting our time and also charge you to send your radio back they assumed I was a idiot because they asked me questions like it was user error on why it wouldn't work. Reset the radio, and try again. Mine is Flawless. Quote
Jaay Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 After about two weeks using my 935H, I've tried to Nitpick faults or manufacturing oversights of it and have only compiled a few so far. 1. I have not found a mic gain setting in the menu anywhere. Wouxun could have omitted the Scramble feature for a mic gain. However, on a good note is seems to have Plenty of gain as is, on all 3 bands, so not a deal breaker. 2. The power supply uses a barrel connector on the Charging cradle and a wall wart to power it, where as USB-C would have been nicer ... But on the other hand I've noticed the the wall wart supplies enough current while charging the radio, that you Can still power the radio, and even Scan while in the cradle and Still charge the battery. My Yaesu FT70 won't allow it, during charge. 3. No Zone option on the 935H, but can be be dealt with by some programming voodoo. 4. No Bluetooth programming on the fly option, but then again, Not many on the market have this option yet. Overall, I'm pretty satisfied with it so far. I purchased the premium data cable and a Second battery for it as well. buytwowayradios.com asked me to review it, so I probably will. WRYZ926 and SteveShannon 2 Quote
WRYZ926 Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 I do wish that Wouxun would have a mic gain setting on their radios. The KG-1000G mic is a bit hot. I haven't had any complaints when using the KG-935G or KG-Q10H. But then again I am not holding the radios too close to my face either. Raybestos and Jaay 2 Quote
73blazer Posted Saturday at 04:45 PM Report Posted Saturday at 04:45 PM On 2/13/2025 at 9:04 AM, Raybestos said: Hi Guys! Sorry ot took me so long to get back to you. It has been a very hectic week for me. Every model of Wouxun ht I have owned has exhibited issues with its PL encode and/or decode algorithm. The worst were the KG905G's. I had two and, before I knew there was a problem, bought two more for some good friends. Some times, some frequencies, using some PL codes, they either failed to properly encode or decode using the same PL on the same frequency. You could try communicating simplex using certain tones and, depending on individual radios, the PL would not open on one or more of the radios in use when in literal line-of-sight with each other. I believe I experienced this with 250.3 and/ or 254.1. Frequencies and encode/decode tones were checked, double checked, and re-checked. The problem persisted. I have had this or similar issues with KG935G (which sounds to be about a KHz or more off-frequency transmitted and received), KG935G+, KG1000G+, and KGS88G radios, owned by myself and/or friends. For those of you who have never encountered these problems, I am sincerely glad for you. Maybe I received radios from lots from the days the people in the Chinese labor camps were not fed or watered well, or maybe not beaten severely enough, to produce the quality of product you guys enjoy. Just because your radios have worked well does not mean that others have not experienced problems as I describe. Some people have bought Dodge automobiles for decades and never had a problem. Others never had a Dodge that was anything but trouble. Ditto Fords, Chevys, and other brands. Me, I had three Hyundais in a row, starting in 2000, when the company began trying to pull its name out of the mud. I loved each one of them. They were very durable and reliable for me. Today, it would appear they are letting their quality slide back into the mud so I would be hesitant to buy another, but during the years I had three outstanding Hyundais, I had friends who had lots of trouble with theirs. Because my luck had been good, I did not dis-believe their tales of misfortune and trouble. I was just grateful that mine worked and served me well. My friends vowed never to buy another and I respected their choices. For those who have not had the PL issue with their Wouxuns, fantastic! I hope your good fortune continues. As for myself, having bought around $3K in KG series radios and accessories for myself and friends over the last few years, I likely won't be buying any in the near future. At least not until BTWR/ Wouxun acknowledges a problem with "some" of these radios and announces steps taken to correct them. How many of you who claim no problems use the PL encode and especially the decoder? How often do you use your Wouxuns? Daily, weekly, monthly, a couple of times a year? I use mine almost daily and frequently use PL even on simplex. OffRoaderX, with the literal dozens of different brands and models of GMRS radios you have at your disposal, how often do YOU use your KG-series radios? Doing a short video and playing with it two or three times before/after the video may not be enough to notice this problem. Ditto the many who comment on here about never turning on the decoders. I have four 905G's, 4 935G and 2 UV8H & KG1000G and KGUV980P mobiles and I have not encountered any PL issues on any of them. The UV8H and UV980P gets used almost daily usually on HAM frequencies with repeaters. The 905G's and 935G's get used extensively with and without repeaters, (usually with no tones if on simplex as usually we're in very rural areas where it's not needed) at certain times of year, so for 3 weeks they'll all be used alot then they sit in a drawer for a few months. I used to use one of the 935G's almost every day for about year before I switched to the UV8H. Mabey I'll try these 250.3 and 254.1 tones and see if I can produce the issue. I don't think I've ever used a CTCSS above 141.5 before. I've used some DCS tones never had issues with those. Quote
RIPPER238 Posted Saturday at 07:27 PM Report Posted Saturday at 07:27 PM Is the 935H display just as bright as the 935G? Or at least have that brighter display setting unlike the Q10H? Q10H display is pretty dim, 935G is great. Quote
WRUU653 Posted Saturday at 07:52 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 07:52 PM 24 minutes ago, RIPPER238 said: Is the 935H display just as bright as the 935G? Or at least have that brighter display setting unlike the Q10H? Q10H display is pretty dim, 935G is great. It’s much brighter than either of them. It’s very nice for seeing the screen in the outdoors! WRHS218, WRYZ926, RIPPER238 and 1 other 4 Quote
Jaay Posted Sunday at 07:53 AM Report Posted Sunday at 07:53 AM buytwowayradios.com in their video promoting this radio, stated that one of the Improvements over the 935G was a Much brighter display option, so it could be seen easier in bright sunlight. I can say the 935H has a VERY bright display, if you set it to max. WRHS218, WRYZ926 and RIPPER238 3 Quote
Raybestos Posted Monday at 07:27 AM Report Posted Monday at 07:27 AM On 3/1/2025 at 11:45 AM, 73blazer said: I have four 905G's, 4 935G and 2 UV8H & KG1000G and KGUV980P mobiles and I have not encountered any PL issues on any of them. The UV8H and UV980P gets used almost daily usually on HAM frequencies with repeaters. The 905G's and 935G's get used extensively with and without repeaters, (usually with no tones if on simplex as usually we're in very rural areas where it's not needed) at certain times of year, so for 3 weeks they'll all be used alot then they sit in a drawer for a few months. I used to use one of the 935G's almost every day for about year before I switched to the UV8H. Mabey I'll try these 250.3 and 254.1 tones and see if I can produce the issue. I don't think I've ever used a CTCSS above 141.5 before. I've used some DCS tones never had issues with those. I am glad you have noted no PL/DPL issues with your Wouxuns thus far. I hope your good luck holds. Mine is not such. In fact, this past Saturday I got a taste of the problem, this time with DPL. A good friend and myself were helping out a privately run charitable event with logistics (parking, sign in, site transport, protective, etc). He and myself brought several each of our own radios to use on FRS/GMRS at the venue. Overall, as far as range, etc, they worked very well. The night before, I was programming three WLN KD-C1's so as to match up with a channel our radios had in common. Yeah, I know the KD-C1's are not type accepted so save the lecture, anyone thinking about it. Two were new out of the box and one I have used lightly for about a year. I programmed them using the template my friend's three WLN's were programmed with. Knowing how weird the Wouxuns can be with PL, I tried all three on a Simplex (from FRS/GMRS 1 thru 7) on a channel I had DPL 245 programmed in, with each-other and with my KG935G+. All radios could hear each other with no issues, except that the older KD-C1 could not be heard by my KG935G+. As a precaution, I programmed my 935G+ with an extra version of that channel in it but to encode DCS 245 and receive CSQ. My thought was to issue the older WLN out only if there were a shortage of radios and I absolutely had to. If it came to that, I would set my radio to the channel with CSQ receive and still be able to hear the older radio. Just for the heck of it, I tested that older WLN with my old and slightly off frequency KG935G and my KGS88G. Interestingly enough, they could both hear the older WLN KD-C1 just fine, despite the fact that I have had PL/DPL weirdness with them both, in the past. I packed the KGS88G in case it was needed but it was never issued. For most of the day, all radios performed well and contributed to the smooth operation of the event. Near the end of the day, I was talking to my friend who had brought some of his radios to issue out. He was carrying his own KG935G. Another member of event staff on another KG935G called him on the radio. Both of us heard that transmission. When my friend answered on his KG935G, I could not hear him. He made a series of transmissions to the staff member and each time, I heard the staff member but not my friend. I switched to my recently added version of that channel with CSQ and continued hearing my friend. Leaving the event, using my mobile B-Tech (I think the 20V somethingorother) with DPL encode AND decode set, I could hear my friend just fine. There IS something effed up with these Wouxun KG series GMRS radios regarding their PL/DPL algorithm. Whatever it is, IS mostly intermittent which makes it all the harder to catch and diagnose. I wish people who experience this would come forward and share their experiences. I find it harder and harder to believe that I am just the poor unlucky SOB that BTWR has somehow managed to divert all specimens with this problem to. There is definitely something in their PL/DPL algorithm in need of modification or replacement. Jaay 1 Quote
Jaay Posted Monday at 08:53 AM Report Posted Monday at 08:53 AM On 2/21/2025 at 6:03 PM, Jaay said: After about two weeks using my 935H, I've tried to Nitpick faults or manufacturing oversights of it and have only compiled a few so far. 1. I have not found a mic gain setting in the menu anywhere. Wouxun could have omitted the Scramble feature for a mic gain. However, on a good note is seems to have Plenty of gain as is, on all 3 bands, so not a deal breaker. 2. The power supply uses a barrel connector on the Charging cradle and a wall wart to power it, where as USB-C would have been nicer ... But on the other hand I've noticed the the wall wart supplies enough current while charging the radio, that you Can still power the radio, and even Scan while in the cradle and Still charge the battery. My Yaesu FT70 won't allow it, during charge. 3. No Zone option on the 935H, but can be be dealt with by some programming voodoo. 4. No Bluetooth programming on the fly option, but then again, Not many on the market have this option yet. Overall, I'm pretty satisfied with it so far. I purchased the premium data cable and a Second battery for it as well. buytwowayradios.com asked me to review it, so I probably will. As a added note, concerning Anyone choosing to purchase the 935H, I noticed yesterday it apparently has the Same Problem the FIRST edition of TID H-8's with the battery discharging a Shock from the Positive battery contact, while transmitting ! While holding the 935H in my right hand touching the Battery Contact, I felt a Zap or charge while transmitting ! FYI. I'm going to Call buytwowayradios.com on Monday and tell them this occurred and see if they know about it. wayoverthere, Raybestos and WSEZ 2 1 Quote
73blazer Posted Monday at 04:29 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:29 PM 8 hours ago, Raybestos said: I am glad you have noted no PL/DPL issues with your Wouxuns thus far. I hope your good luck holds. Mine is not such. In fact, this past Saturday I got a taste of the problem, this time with DPL. A good friend and myself were helping out a privately run charitable event with logistics (parking, sign in, site transport, protective, etc). He and myself brought several each of our own radios to use on FRS/GMRS at the venue. Overall, as far as range, etc, they worked very well. The night before, I was programming three WLN KD-C1's so as to match up with a channel our radios had in common. Yeah, I know the KD-C1's are not type accepted so save the lecture, anyone thinking about it. Two were new out of the box and one I have used lightly for about a year. I programmed them using the template my friend's three WLN's were programmed with. Knowing how weird the Wouxuns can be with PL, I tried all three on a Simplex (from FRS/GMRS 1 thru 7) on a channel I had DPL 245 programmed in, with each-other and with my KG935G+. All radios could hear each other with no issues, except that the older KD-C1 could not be heard by my KG935G+. As a precaution, I programmed my 935G+ with an extra version of that channel in it but to encode DCS 245 and receive CSQ. My thought was to issue the older radio out only if there were a shortage of radios and I absolutely had to. If it came to that, I would set my radio to the channel with CSQ receive and still be able to hear the older radio. Just for the heck of it, I tested that older WLN with my old and slightly off frequency KG935G and my KGS88G. Interestingly enough, they could both hear the older WLN KD-C1 just fine, despite the fact that I have had PL/DPL weirdness with them both, in the past. I packed the KGS88G in case it was needed but it was never issued. For most of the day, all radios performed well and contributed to the smooth operation of the event. Near the end of the day, I was talking to my friend who had brought some of his radios to issue out. He was carrying his own KG935G. Another member of event staff on another KG935G called him on the radio. Both of us heard that transmission. When my friend answered on his KG935G, I could not hear him. He made a series of transmissions to the staff member and each time, I heard the staff member but not my friend. I switched to my recently added version of that channel with CSQ and continued hearing my friend. Leaving the event, using my mobile B-Tech (I think the 20V somethingorother) with DPL encode AND decode set, I could hear my friend just fine. There IS something effed up with these Wouxun KG series GMRS radios regarding their PL/DPL algorithm. Whatever it is, IS mostly intermittent which makes it all the harder to catch and diagnose. I wish people who experience this would come forward and share their experiences. I find it harder and harder to believe that I am just the poor unlucky SOB that BTWR has somehow managed to divert all specimens with this problem to. There is definitely something in their PL/DPL algorithm in need of modification or replacement. Well that is certainly and interesting issue. I played around with a couple of my 905G's and 935G's and my UV8H (I don't have any + models) I set 254.1 on RX&TX on GMRS 02 and GMRS 16 and did the same on one of my Yeasu's and I didn't have any issue with them working btw the Wouxun's or between the Wouxun's and Yeasu. I tried also some DCS tones and same result it all worked as expected. How are you programming these? With CHIRP or native Wouxun software, RT's, or on the radio itself? My tests I just did I just did it from the radio itself. I generally use Chirp for the 935 or UV8H, the 905 is not chirp supported so I use the native. I have seen Chirp do some weird things on my Yeasu, it says it's supported but when you write out the config it will ADD a DCS025N tone as well (which is not possible on the radio itself to have both a DCS and CTCSS set) , so nothing works, , when you read the config back off the radio you can see it had set whatever CTCSS or no CTCSS but added DCS025N to every channel. But that is very obvious when you go to use and no repeater activates. There was a handful of times my mobile UV980P has not opened a repeater. I'll be going back and forth with someone in a conversation and suddenly I PTT and start talking and mid sentence the person I'm talking to will bust in "uh..did I lose you.." because they can't hear me . I know that happened at least three times when in the first few days of operation because I was starting to think mabey I need to send this one back...but that hasn't happened in over a year since and I use that radio alot on various frequencies, so I dunno what that was. Raybestos 1 Quote
Raybestos Posted Monday at 04:44 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:44 PM 4 hours ago, 73blazer said: Well that is certainly and interesting issue. I played around with a couple of my 905G's and 935G's and my UV8H (I don't have any + models) I set 254.1 on RX&TX on GMRS 02 and GMRS 16 and did the same on one of my Yeasu's and I didn't have any issue with them working btw the Wouxun's or between the Wouxun's and Yeasu. I tried also some DCS tones and same result it all worked as expected. How are you programming these? With CHIRP or native Wouxun software, RT's, or on the radio itself? My tests I just did I just did it from the radio itself. I generally use Chirp for the 935 or UV8H, the 905 is not chirp supported so I use the native. I have seen Chirp do some weird things on my Yeasu, it says it's supported but when you write out the config it will ADD a DCS025N tone as well (which is not possible on the radio itself to have both a DCS and CTCSS set) , so nothing works, , when you read the config back off the radio you can see it had set whatever CTCSS or no CTCSS but added DCS025N to every channel. But that is very obvious when you go to use and no repeater activates. There was a handful of times my mobile UV980P has not opened a repeater. I'll be going back and forth with someone in a conversation and suddenly I PTT and start talking and mid sentence the person I'm talking to will bust in "uh..did I lose you.." because they can't hear me . I know that happened at least three times when in the first few days of operation because I was starting to think mabey I need to send this one back...but that hasn't happened in over a year since and I use that radio alot on various frequencies, so I dunno what that was. Hi 73 Blazer! I use either the BTWR/Wouxun proprietary software or the RT Systems in all of my programming. I have found CHIRP to be quirky and difficult to use on the two computers I have tried it on. I know, lots of people swear by CHIRP and don't want a radio that doesn't allow its use. I never use CHIRP so that can't be the issue. It is incredibly annoying when this problem does manifest itself. I have experienced it while in communication with other Wouxuns of various models as well as other Chinese radios and Motorola repeaters. Addendum: I have owned, used, and programmed and tested a number of Baofeng UV5R's, UV5G's, and UV5X's (actually earlier model UV5G's), and even 888's. These are like the flagships of "Cheap Chinese Radios" and are available for a fraction of the price of the Wouxuns. I do not recall ever experiencing this difficulty with the Baofeng radios. For multiple reasons, I prefer the Wouxun platforms, but the CTCSS/DCS issues make me a bit gun shy about dropping another century note and a half or more, on a new Wouxun. I wish Wouxun would collaborate with Baofeng (not B Tech) on this CTCSS/DCS issue if they are unable to fix it, themselves. Jaay 1 Quote
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