Imagine Nationwide or International Coverage of your GMRS Repeater, Legally!

[CogentRadios]

 

[SteveShannon]

This page in the fcc website explains the rationale they expressed when clarifying their rules: https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/bureau-divisions/mobility-division/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs

Most notably, the language here (any other network) would seem to indicate that the FCC would not approve this scheme either:

A GMRS user can expect a communications range of one to twenty-five miles depending on station class, terrain, and repeater use.  GMRS stations cannot be interconnected with the public switched telephone network or any other network for the purpose of carrying GMRS communications, but these networks can be used for remote control of repeater stations.

[Lscott]

International Coverage of your GMRS Repeater

This isn't going to happen simply due to the fact that the frequencies used by the GMRS service is specific to the USA only. Even the Canadians don't have access to repeaters, much less to the frequencies they use.

Other areas of the world are covered by PMR446 or the various flavors of dPMR446.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMR446

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_private_mobile_radio

And for places that doesn't apply you'll find things like UHF CB radio.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UHF_CB

There are a bunch of lesser known licensed/unlicensed radio service in other areas. For example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDR_444

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet_(radio)

[dosw]

I've re-read the FCC Part 95 Subpart E language several times over. I've watched the video twice. I've re-read the FCC language, and followed all the references in Subpart E through to the other documents they refer to. And still I don't see any new information here that would change my mind that the FCC has explicitly disallowed what the video is claiming to be legal.

 

[SteveShannon]

27 minutes ago, dosw said:

I've re-read the FCC Part 95 Subpart E language several times over. I've watched the video twice. I've re-read the FCC language, and followed all the references in Subpart E through to the other documents they refer to. And still I don't see any new information here that would change my mind that the FCC has explicitly disallowed what the video is claiming to be legal.

 

I agree. Clearly the FCC doesn’t approve of carrying GMRS communications on the telephone network or any other network. Yet that’s exactly what this does. Cogent would need to produce a letter from the fcc saying that it’s okay to connect GMRS repeaters in this manner before I would consider it. 

[WRUE951]

Bold statement claiming the use would be legal by FCC.  He better go back and read the FCC's latest interpretation of using GMRS over the internet

[BoxCar]

Cogent just wants people to purchase equipment through them for the revenue. The Commission has made their position clear in that GMRS repeaters are not to be interconnected for carrying conversations. The spectrum assigned to FRS/GMRS in the Commission's jurisdiction isn't large enough to support linked repeaters without causing undue interference to other users.

[AdmiralCochrane]

He's not connecting repeaters, he's bridging GMRS to LTE

[SteveShannon]

11 minutes ago, AdmiralCochrane said:

He's not connecting repeaters, he's bridging GMRS to LTE

Correct, but that requires putting GMRS communications onto a network, which is what is prohibited. 

[TDM827]

I think if someone who both fully understands the engineering and FCC regulations found a legal solution for GMRS linking, it would have happened by now.  

[LeoG]

How about no thank you.  The frequencies can get pretty busy in some areas and all you need is one yahoo jabber jawing for hours on end to destroy a whole bandwidth.

[WRUU653]

[WRUE951]

2 hours ago, LeoG said:

How about no thank you.  The frequencies can get pretty busy in some areas and all you need is one yahoo jabber jawing for hours on end to destroy a whole bandwidth.

already that way in the bigger cities.  Some areas like Los Angless, Phoenix, Dallas is nothing but a jungle.   Pretty bad..  

[CaptainSarcastic]

Popcorn!!!

Get yer popcorrrrnnnnn!!

 

 

 

[SteveShannon]

46 minutes ago, CaptainSarcastic said:

Popcorn!!!

Get yer popcorrrrnnnnn!!

 

 

 

Funny, the song “Let’s all go to the lobby” popped into my head.

[WRUU653]

1 hour ago, SteveShannon said:

Funny, the song “Let’s all go to the lobby” popped into my head.

How could it not