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As has been stated many times on this forum, it's all about how the transmitter is being used. Two stationary units only exchange signals between themselves. They are not used to contact repeaters or mobile stations nor; do they contact other base stations that communicate to either other base or mobile stations. Perhaps the best example of a fixed station communicating to another fixed station are microwave links. they don't contact repeaters or any mobile or other base stations. they only talk to one other station at a fixed location.

I used the term stationary to differentiate between a unit that doesn't move as opposed to a mobile unit that moves. Nobody argues about mobile, regardless of how it moves. But stationary (not moving) seems to be confusing. Seems pretty simple. A stationary unit( not moving communicating with another stationary unit ( not moving) both units are fixed. If a stationary unit communicates with a mobile unit it's then a base. Do I understand correctly.

DB20-G, GMRS mode, with ch. 39 programmed for simplex, ch 39 can be programmed from the mic for 467 mains with or without tone

Maybe he's setting it up by himself like I did. Not everyone has people available when they need them to talk on the radio. I myself used a digital voice recorder which only activates when a sound is made. Used an app on my phone. I didn't get a response but I would go to places that I needed it to work and transmitted where I was and if it got recorded I knew that was a good test. If not, more work to be done or just don't use it there.

If you are a non mobile station that communicates with another non mobile station that is a fixed station. As soon as that fixed station communicates with a mobile unit it becomes a base station in definition. And as soon as that same fixed/base station communicates with a repeater it is by definition a control station. The only one that seems to have limitations is when you operate a fixed to fixed station where you can't exceed 15 watts. Sounds like a specialty unit that has an antenna pointed at another antenna to communicate specifically with that station. Most likely LOS on towers so 15 watts would be more than adequate to maintain good quality communications.

Certainly not Michael Jackson....

Where is that michael jackson eating popcorn gif when i need it....

Stationary unit is not a defined term. Station at a fixed location is the language used. Base stations traditionally fill that role for routine usage. Fixed station still does not have enough defined parameters to clearly distinguish it except who you talk to. It's a bad way to write regulations but it is all we got. For your "stationary unit" term, are you including a parked car? a person with a handheld who sits in a chair?

Giving it to GMRS doesn't really solve anything except the question of what to do with it, but it doesn't really make sense to create a new class of license for that band. I suspect that if it were given to GMRS, users would divide up into "VHF GMRS" and "UHF GMRS" folks depending upon their needs or whims. And, of course, the occasional oddball would "need" to have two radios just because. Yes, repeaters would be expensive to build and maintain, but 6m AM simplex would be great for some things, especially with 50-100 watts. A lot of folks who now need a repeater to talk to the spouse unit from office to home could probably just go to 6m simplex. Farms and ranches that now use repeaters might be able to get rid of them. The easiest solution for the FCC would be to set some basic rules, toss it into the GMRS category, and say, "You figure it out. Or don't. Whatever."

Wow that’s a load of hoops just to get a radio to do what it is supposed to. So glad I buy good radios and don’t have these issues.

I won't be showing my wife the invoice for my 80' tower when I finally get it.

Maybe I am too green to understand, but it doesn't seem all that complicated based on stations talk to mobile units. Fixed stations talk to stationary units that by virtue of being stationary are fixed stations.

Welcome Seth! I'll start monitoring Murfreesboro a little more. I can RX it, but don't think i come through on TX.....not until I get my antenna up on the outside of the house. Same with Lebanon for me. I can communicate clearly through Brentwood and Grasslands though.

Why don’t you just turn it on and try and talk to it? If your using gmrs you obviously have friends and family you can talk with to test out the repeater. This is another solution looking for a problem that is very easily solved by trying to use the repeater. I mean grab a couple hts and go for a Drive. I have a feeling this is another repeater that isn’t needed.

Because they don’t want the general public on a personal repeater. I work several ranches throughout the week local and in other states. They very active repeaters for ranch or farm business. None of them want the general public using the repeaters. So please do not list something that is not yours. Why would you even want to. What activities are you doing with your family or friends that requires you to want to list strangers private repeaters. WHY IS THIS EVEN A QUESTION. what would this even cross some ones mi d. Gmrs is MORE than repeaters.

The outer rubber coating on my MXT-400 "mike wire" has recently failed also. Just as an example, my Cobra CB unit still looks brand new even after almost 15 years (and works). So, there is a failure in regard of Midland "quality failure/cheap stuff," I'll also support that claim to a degree. Yea, I'm still stuck with swapping PL Codes when necessay and as such will look into other radios IF the replacement mike fails from the "poor coating." At my age (and level of use) I really don't think I need to learn another new manufacturer programming plan. But at the time of replacement I will look innto it.

Because not all repeater owner's want their repeaters listed for what ever reasons. And it also keeps from have multiple listings for the same repeater on the website. Another thing is if someone besides the owner listed a repeater that requires permission, then the repeater owner will not get any requests at all through MyGMRS.

The most common reason I've heard is to keep the repeater use limited, as in to keep hoards of users away. But the most used repeater in my area still has lots of dead air.

Does this include sporks?

I discovered several open GRMS repeaters in my area by simply listening to frequencies. However only small fraction is listed on myGMRS. Some are listed on other sites and some are not listed at all. My understanding is that "If you are not the owner, please contact the repeater owner to add it to the database." But many discovered repeaters don't publish their call sign or published call sign seems bogus. Question: why does myGMRS prohibit publishing open systems repeater information on their web site?

And since repeaters and HTs aren’t listed my mobile mounted in the house isn’t a base station. Rather it is a mobile at rest.

I'm looking for a way to help test my rt97s. I've been looking at this surecom sr112 simplex repeater. It records and plays back your transmission. It has a DTMF encoder to enable or disable or otherwise make changes. It can even be set to play back prerecorded messages at predetermined intervals so it seems like it could be used to identify a repeater if so desired, however I don't think I would do that just because it ties up a repeater channel even when it's not in use. It seems like a guy could fashion the correct RS232 interface cable. Set it to sleep mode 99% of the time. Use DTMF to activate it, make your test, then turn it back off. It's basically a repeater controller. It relies on a separate transceiver. A retevis rt97s is basically that. You just need the correct cable. I doubt they have one, I would have to make one. Shouldn't be too difficult. What say you?

I found a missing tone issue on my DB20 (I always program via the software). In my case, several rewrites to the radio didn't fix it. It stayed absent. All other tones were there. I needed to delete the Code plug line (for the fault channel) and enter the details again for that channel only. All great now. I like the DB20. Best Regards!