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We have a channel 1 gmrs CW identifier that seems to be super common. I think it’s bleed over from another channel or band but I’m not certain, it is very loud and clear. Sounds like a repeater on ID every so often. You could be close to someone who is using CW id that is on a different frequency (dunno) using a radio that transmits “unclean” power

Sounds like that may just bring the unlicensed, non-radio folk, one step closer to getting onto local repeaters... welcome or not. Modern GMRS radios in the hands of "FRS type" users will no doubt continue to blur the lines between the two services.

Make an audio recording of the CW and upload here to decode. https://morsecode.world/international/decoder/audio-decoder-adaptive.html

Channels 1-7 are the 462 MHz Interstitial channels and channels 8-14 are the 467 MHz Interstitial channels.

AFAIK, they'd hidden/removed the install file for either the PC version or the free version for PC awhile ago, so not entirely surprising. I still had a copy installed and working, but it looks like they're shrinking access to the free side of things....not that I had access to much anymore anyway.

A lot of new radios have automatic tone ID. If both tones are the same, they only need to be within receiving range of the repeater. If the tones are different (or only input), they would have to be within range of someone transmitting to the repeater, but it is automated these days. No longer necessary to just quess.

Yeah, my truck has crap for ground plane and the 2x4 doesn't like it, but on the roof of my car, it has spectacular SWRs on GMRS, MURS, 2 meters, 70 centimeters, and even 1.25 meters. Yes, 1.25 meters. I don't know how well it will actually perform on 1.25m, but I intend to find out. SWR is well below 2.0:1, so it shouldn't hurt the radio. I also have a Comet SBB224 which is officially a tri-band (2m, 1.25m, 70cm) antenna and it approaches but does not cross 2.0:1 on GMRS. It also needs a ground plane, so it will go on the car if the 2x4 is weak on 1.25m. Or maybe even if it isn't. IDK I can't find any single antenna that will give me all the bands I want with the lousy ground plane on my truck so I ended up adding a dedicated 1.25m radio and antenna in addition to a GMRS/2m/70cm/MURS radio and antenna. Add the CB radio and antenna, and my truck kinda looks like a spaceship. The car is going to get a tri-band radio/antenna and a second NMO mount so I can stick on a CB antenna when I get the whim.

Record it and post it here. Someone will decipher it. (Still not me )

You can get a smartphone app to decode CW. Not sure if leaving it running for hours would be a problem. I don't know if mine eats up storage space or just overwrites the same small amount of memory so I only let it run for a few minutes. Works better in a quiet room.

To fast for me to ident... maybe 4 numbers/letters. Only happens every few hours.

It would have had to be channel 7 since channels 7-14 are the interstitial channels at 467 MHz.

I have heard a Station ID on one of the Interstitial channels before. I believe the channel was either 6 or 7.

It could be anything. What does the Morse code say?

Channel 6 in GMRS is limited to 5 watts Max. 462.6875

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What do you mean by "max 5 watts"? You're receiving a signal from unidentified source. You would have no way of knowing its power output without the message you're receiving telling you. I know in amateur radio there are beacons set up that continually emit a morse code (cw) message that tells a call sign, a location, and power level. This is used by others to determine if a band is propagating. But you just get this "sometimes", so it's more likely that someone has equipment that is outputting morse to identify their station. However, if you're really curious, you can record the signal, and use an online morse decoder (or decode it yourself manually) to read what the message is saying. That will probably tell you who owns it. ...- ...- ...- is usually the beginning of a beacon's signal. The "vvv" symbols are easily identifiable as a beacon preamble.

My radio can scan all gmrs frequencies.. some times I get a morse code Ident on channel 6...max 5 watts.... what could it be? " 06 462.6875 2 W 12.5 kHz 5 W

Yes they can easily figure out the tones. Now if it is someone "passing through" then nothing much will come of it. But if it is a local then actions can be taken. There is no guarantee that any actions taken against the offending person will have much effect, but you have to start somewhere before lawyers and/or the FCC gets involved. I leave that to our club's executive board to deal with. So far we haven't had any problems and the couple of times framers/businesses tried to use the repeater, they were told not to do it and they quit.

only one time in 7 years of using GMRS was i ever asked to register, or request t to use a GMRS repeater. It was in Auburn, Calif in 2020. As i was travling through on I80 Ch 18 broke loose with someone asking for a radio check. This Ch happend to be programed with the same and PL codes of a repeater here in the desert After giving the other party a radio check and talking for 20'ish minutes. The owner just popped in introduced his call sign told me it was his repeater and asked me to submit a request here to use. It was no big deal, the guy was nice about everything. I never did fill out a request to use cause i havent been through that area since.. Frankly, i can't even keep up with the ones have requested access too.

Keep changing it and they'll likely get tired of pursuing it. Most have a hard time programming the tone in with explicit instructions.

I've often wondered about the practical reality of "we don't allow...to use our GMRS repeater" when all they need is the correct tone. Notwithstanding the reality that many can't figure out the tone, for those that can and do, then what? If they are locals and are doing it on a regular basis, as opposed to some unknown random person or group passing thru the area, it isn't difficult to figure out who they are. Clearly that would be the first step in any sort of enforcement action. But what a PITA. Then what? Report it to FCC and cross your fingers, I guess... IDK, the whole thing is based on the honor system and as we see, or rather hear, with some degree of regularity, some folks just don't care about rules.

It's all the wicked Wick's fault.

I paid close to $100 for mine at the Hamvention. Who knows, might have been due to the tariff crap then. R and L Electronics, which seemed to have the best price, was out of stock when I looked a while back. Plus they didn't have a booth at the Hamvention, which I though was sort of strange since they are one of the better known Ham gear vendors. This is a link to a photo I just added to my album with the testing results and a photo of the antenna in it's protective sleeve. Note the antenna is clearly marked as a NR240CA. I've seen the NR240C being sold. Not sure if they are the same or not. https://forums.mygmrs.com/gallery/image/613-nr240ca-roof-rack-mount-swr-and-photojpg/?context=new