I see that I've many replies and should say thank you ALL for help and insight... I got it to work on both of my test settings this afternoon with the repeater operator. Family so happy on this family hobby. Since BTWR was closed for the holiday. I had to import radio factory setting using CHRIP software to see what was going on. In doing so I saw via the programing software which showed it was not setup for +5 on duplexing. Just a side note, being a newbie, I asked BTWR before purchasing if they would set up this first repeater channel for me.... BTWR reply NO. I will say BTWR was helpful in getting me to pick this KG-805G and very help with it. Now I'm open for any other HT I should be looking at as I only have this one plus an old FRS unit. I hope I did not offend anyone with my repeated questions. It is one of those things, where you have to ask enough folks as everyone see things from different points of view. Sure I did not ask the right questions as I did not know what they where. So asking gave me many answers to the puzzle piece I was missing. You all played a part getting me to be successful in front of family and kids during the first radio check with repeater. Must thankful for the PM answers these guys gave just the right on out of the view of others. Be patience and helpful to us newbie as we are the future of GMRS... You guys have been a good witness to me and my kids of caring, helpful teachers, that what make you so great in my eyes... P.S. Now for any Newbie with Wouxun KG-805G GMRS Radio, feel free to call on me... I can be one of those puzzle piece you need for the question you have no clue how to ask it. We will PM several times until we get it right thus not boring others on the forum.