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As said many repeaters are not listed on any site. I have multiple that are not listed, nor will ever list them.

Being most GMRS mobiles don't have 8-14 (as defined by the rules) those should not be discussed as a use case.

How many people actually read their license after they get it ? Yes parts of the ADK park are above line A. Dealing with Canada is a PITA for LMR/Public Safety stuff.

For years GMRS 462.675 was the emergency channel in many folks area's as channel 9 was in CB. Many REACT teams had repeaters for this channel. Prior to SAR in CNY React had a repeater and got given to SAR when React faded. It is still on the air to this day on 462.675. While it was used more for SAR stuff before local VHF systems flourished it was used randomly by hikers on the FLT. There is alot out there on GMRS 462.675 (CH20) being used for this. I knw many monitor this channel while traveling still (my Priority) with the travel tone. As said in the end unless the FCC designates a frequency its going to be up to an individual or area to use what they want. Personally I think CH1 is the smartest channel as most never leave it. On my last Jeep ride that's basically the channel they said to go to if you can't get an answer on the trail channel. My guess is its simple and basic and most radios all match on CH1. If you use the travel PL on it you wont hear all the FRS users who just got a Christmas radio. On a similar topic State of Wyoming designated Channel 3 and PL7 (307) as a search and rescue channel. People are giving 100 reasons why it wont work. So no matter what gets picked some will like it and some wont. As for scratching the Line A idea I can't argue as it takes forever to get public safety and LMR licenses above Line A also, but its the rules. Saying to disregard the rules is not what GMRS users should be promoting. We should be promoting following the rules as well as getting a license.

Thats why we still carry them for SAR. They are simple radios and just work.

Never said it was. Just said if I have a repeater on that pair I dont want to listen to others all the time just traveling thru. Guess it isn't an issue as this will never take off.

A lot more than you think. Syracuse NY is above line A. That's a pretty decent sized city with 2 interstates running thru it and GMRS repeaters in the area. While it may not affect you it may affect folks who live there. In reality many large cities in NY are above line A including Rochester and Buffalo. Going West Cleveland Ohio, Detroit and so on...

Never say never but no. Just pick up a standard 1/4 wave uhf mag mount on amazon.

"A GMRS travle channel should not be a repeater channel simplex only" So what do you mean by this. We only have 8 repeater channels. Are you proposing to use channels 1-7 which are 5 watt low power ? For me I dont want someone camping on my repeater pair or using it as a "road" channel. If your set on a designated channel I'd pick a 1-7 channel.

Line A is an imaginary line the FCC defined that you cannot operate GMRS above. Its stated on your license that certain channels cannot be used above it. https://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/index.htm?job=line_a_c The Line A and Line C Program determines whether an entered coordinate is SOUTH of Line A or WEST of Line C. Line A is an imaginary line within the US, approximately paralleling the US-Canadian border. To the north of Line A, FCC coordination with Canadian authorities is generally required in the assignment of frequencies.

Correct per the flash UHF/VHF. Both Analog and Digital P25 is supported. Appears to be a great starter radio. Get the MSI battery and antenna and you wont be disappointed. Biggest issue will be the software. You need to open an account with Motorola and then purchase. Cables can be had in aftermarket although the MSI cable isn't expensive. 806: ASTRO IMBE Digital Operation QA00571: Primary Band: UHF Range 1 QA00574: Secondary Band: VHF QA00579: Enable Dual Band Operation QA00583: Enable Bluetooth Operation QA01749: Legacy SW System Key Enable Q947: APCO Packet Data Interface

So we are focusing on something that rarely happens and there is no real rule out there to tell us which way to go. Sadly we spend more time talking about non compliant CCR radios and every other topic on this forum than true GMRS chat. There used to be a few good guys on here that were not only knowledgeable but involved heavily in GMRS as well as other services. On a similar topic our threads appear to drift off topic alot.... Done ranting. I'll go play on P25 LMR now...

I guess just don't get it. 99% of the GMRS use for me is my friends and family. If someone calls me and I don't know them I most likely wont answer them. Its not that Im rude but that's what I have GMRS for. If i'm on 2M and some calls on 520 its my option to answer or not. A road channel implies a channel folks will listen to and monitor. When im on the highway my radio is in scan. With that said I have PL on all my channels because i don't want to listen to others. CB was the same for years. The only defined channel was 9 for emergencies back in the 70's. 19 was kinda the trucker channel and 4 was the jeep channel. What is the intended goal ? If I'm on a jeep ride they give us a channel to monitor. If I'm home I monitor my repeaters. To me some just feel GMRS needs more than it was intended for. While some are avid GMRS users with multiple repeaters, many are using it for a 1/4 mile to talk to a car behind them and most likely have no license anyway.

I'll jump on this topic against better judgement. If someone gets on my repeater without permission and is stupid its on them. If i gave them permission i take responsibility. There is no keeping idiots off a repeater if they want to no matter what we do. Just take it with a grain of salt. Back to reqular programming.

This comes up often. there is not one and no need for one. This isn't ham radio.

The APX is the top of the line radio from Motorola and many use it on GMRS and Amateur as well as public safety. It can be flashed many ways.

No wideband key needed for APX line.

OK. Many opinions on this but here is the info on the APX line. You first need to know the model number of the APX7000. That radio came in multiple flavors of dual band and single band. UHF/VHF and 700/800. The flashcode can give you some info. I use my APX on GMRS and it works great. (APX7000, 8000, 7500, 8500). CPS is going to be expensive as it needs purchased from MSI directly. There is no wideband entitlement as some claim as the software allows wideband on the frequencies and bands approved for wideband. Yes the radio can do P25 if so flashed for that option. Our first APX7000 for SAR wave VHF Analog only. The best option is to get the flash code looked at. Start with whats listed on the radio. IF you have no battery you are not 100% knowing whats in the radio but the label can help. If its 800/VHF it wont do much on GMRS. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions on the APX.

I use my VHF HT1000 on Low Power. 1 Watt. MURS channel. Isn't that what we were talking about.

My 1 watt HT1000 talks further than a FRS radio time and tome again. Love to have 5 watts to use but for what I use it for 1 watt is perfect.

I agree. Had a license for many years, before I even got ham. I use GMRS more than ham also. I remember my father having a CB license and when I got my first CB there was no license at that point. Now its a mess. Sadly GMRS is a mess in some areas already. Another topic for anther day. Just happy JJ finally put it in writing for folks.

I would not install the radio that close. If your using 30' of cable you are not loosing that muck unless its twin lead wire. Any RG/LMR will be fine on that short of a distance. I dont see where you would gain much if not anything by moving it in the attic with the antenna.

Saw this in a registration package today. Was happy they are talking about it this year. Last year they just said get a radio. This year it does say a license is required. See if it affects anything. Last year at one of the events I asked a guide who said he had no license. I tried to explain the rules to him but that not something we can fix anytime soon. Sadly the more popular GMRS becomes I see license' going away just like CB.

Being neither has a true ground plane it may be worth adding a ground plane vs moving them. Maybe its just the picture but i see no ground planes on either antenna. Those are both mobile antenna's so without a ground plane are both not going to do much.

I guess it really depends on the area. Most of the areas I work in the RACES/ARES groups get limited funds from the county. Instead of using it to get good equipment they prefer cheap with quantity. When the hardline connector cost more than the antenna on the end of the 1 5/8" hardline you should question your goal. JMHO.