A heads-up on new Cobra radios of interest

[Ian]

The Cobra Trailblazer lineup is out, and soon-to-be-on-Amazon, and the Trailblazer 500 looks really exciting to me.  A UI that can be pared down to just the couple of repeaters you care about / can reach, and it's based on their older business-focused FRS radios so accessories are already available, plus they sell the older PX650 upon which this is based at Wal-Mart, so I expect this to be the first repeater-capable handie you can buy at Wally World in a while…

[GrouserPad]

Gmrs is going to turn into CB after all lol. But really those business frs radios by Cobra have fantastic audio quality and nice loud speakers. Unfortunately they never lasted very long as the fixed antennas constantly get broken off by nearly everyone who uses them. 

[H8SPVMT]

1 hour ago, GrouserPad said:

Gmrs is going to turn into CB after all lol. But really those business frs radios by Cobra have fantastic audio quality and nice loud speakers. Unfortunately they never lasted very long as the fixed antennas constantly get broken off by nearly everyone who uses them. 

Still have a pair of Uniden HH units with broken off antenna (protectors). The wire antennas look goofy but it all still works great.

 

[nokones]

My local SCCA Region has 24 Cobra PX650 radios and have been using them for the past 3 years for race operations and they have been holding up OK. They are not the best radio to use in a noisy environment and they are not supported very well in the after-market world for accessories like speaker mics and headsets.

[Socalgmrs]

For $140 for a 2 pack I could buy 7 much much better radios that have proven them selves for years and years or I could buy 2 used professional radios that will last forever and work 100xs better.   When will people learn. Uniden, cobra, rugged, woxoun, midland…. All the “name brand” consumer radios. Heck even Motorola “consumer radios” have more money in advertising then r&d.  They are designed for the chump that doesn’t know any better so they buy the advertising.   At 2 watts these are just slightly better then an $10 frs radio.  
 

2 hours ago, Ian said:

A UI that can be pared down to just the couple of repeaters you care about / can reach,

So can just about any gmrs radio.  I can program just one repeater into any of my radios if I wanted.  

 

1 hour ago, GrouserPad said:

 

Gmrs is going to turn into CB after all

 

Yup only worse because parents buy their kids these type of junker radios and they tie up all channels while making strang noises in the back yard.   

[Lscott]

I'm not a big fan of display-less radios, I have some Kenwood LMR's like that. Some have anywhere from 32 to 64 channels. If you have more than a few channels trying to figure out which one you have currently in use is hard. For those radios I have to print out a channel chart showing what I have programmed into each memory slot. Yeah voice announcements helps, when changing channels, but useless when you want to do a quick look without touching the controls.

I even got what looked like a almost new 16 channel Kenwood LMR radio once. The dig-dong had super glued the channel selector so it couldn't be changed. I'm guessing because they got fed up with unskilled users accidentally changing channels and couldn't figure out which one they are on.  I had to use channel lock pliers on that one to free up the selector knob so it was usable. They used a lot of super glue on it. You weren't going to break it loose with your fingers.

[WRTC928]

50 minutes ago, Lscott said:

I'm not a big fan of display-less radios, I have some Kenwood LMR's like that. Some have anywhere from 32 to 64 channels. If you have more than a few channels trying to figure out which one you have currently in use is hard. For those radios I have to print out a channel chart showing what I have programmed into each memory slot. Yeah voice announcements helps, when changing channels, but useless when you want to do a quick look without touching the controls.

I even got what looked like a almost new 16 channel Kenwood LMR radio once. The dig-dong had super glued the channel selector so it couldn't be changed. I'm guessing because they got fed up with unskilled users accidentally changing channels and couldn't figure out which one they are on.  I had to use channel lock pliers on that one to free up the selector knob so it was usable. They used a lot of super glue on it. You weren't going to break it loose with your fingers.

With no display, I'd hate to try to feel my way through 30+ channels. I'm good with 12-16 channels selected by a knob, but I wouldn't want to have more than that. I think of knob-selector radios as being for non-radio people more than for radio dorks. I have some Arcshell AR-5s (similar to Baofeng 888s) that I pass out for US Cavalry Association events, and stuff that seems obvious to us can be a challenge for non-radio people. Getting everyone on the same channel was more difficult than I expected, and that's the only thing besides volume that a user can change.  In general, most GMRS radios should be as plug-and-play as possible, IMO. Obviously the 500 is marketed toward the more advanced user, but I kind of wonder how many advanced users would go for this instead of some of the less expensive options which have a screen. I suspect anyone capable of programming a radio via software will balk at the $90 price tag as opposed to a $14 Baofeng. I certainly would.

[Lscott]

2 hours ago, WRTC928 said:

In general, most GMRS radios should be as plug-and-play as possible, IMO. Obviously the 500 is marketed toward the more advanced user, but I kind of wonder how many advanced users would go for this instead of some of the less expensive options which have a screen. I suspect anyone capable of programming a radio via software will balk at the $90 price tag as opposed to a $14 Baofeng. I certainly would.

GMRS was envisioned as a service for use by the general public for personal use, particularly after the 2017 rule changes that eliminated new business licenses in the band. 

Since that main target for GMRS was general public use, assumed non technical users, the simpler the radio the better. Less crap for people to mess up, get frustrated, and quit using the radio.

I would say if one is a knowledgeable user, then perhaps going with a quality commercial grade radio is a good move. Much more in the way of features and more customization options. All the radios I use for GMRS are mostly used mid to higher end commercial grade radios. Some are even digital enabled, used on the Ham bands in that mode since currently it's not legal for GMRS use.

[WRUE951]

5 hours ago, Socalgmrs said:

For $140 for a 2 pack I could buy 7 much much better radios that have proven them selves for years and years or I could buy 2 used professional radios that will last forever and work 100xs better.   When will people learn. Uniden, cobra, rugged, woxoun, midland…. All the “name brand” consumer radios. Heck even Motorola “consumer radios” have more money in advertising then r&d.  They are designed for the chump that doesn’t know any better so they buy the advertising.   At 2 watts these are just slightly better then an $10 frs radio.  
 

So can just about any gmrs radio.  I can program just one repeater into any of my radios if I wanted.  

 

Yup only worse because parents buy their kids these type of junker radios and they tie up all channels while making strang noises in the back yard.   

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[WRUE951]

5 hours ago, Socalgmrs said:

 

 

Yup only worse because parents buy their kids these type of junker radios and they tie up all channels while making strang noises in the back yard.   

Even worse is the strange mean comments that come from you.  I'd rather put up with kids having fun 

[OffRoaderX]

49 minutes ago, WRUE951 said:

Even worse is the strange mean comments that come from you.  I'd rather put up with kids having fun 

is that assclown even still here?  I blocked him a month or so ago and this has been a much better place ever since...

I highly recommend that everyone also hover their mouse over the his user-photo/avatar and click the IGNORE button..  and remember to recommend this action to everyone else when appropriate... Meaning each time he posts one of his socially rheet-harded posts.

[Jaay]

1 hour ago, OffRoaderX said:

is that assclown even still here?  I blocked him a month or so ago and this has been a much better place ever since...

I highly recommend that everyone also hover their mouse over the his user-photo/avatar and click the IGNORE button..  and remember to recommend this action to everyone else when appropriate... Meaning each time he posts one of his socially rheet-harded posts.

I'm hoping  someday, after reading everyone's comments expressing disgust at his rudeness and Lack of common sense that he may one day have a epiphany and realize that he's being an ASS, but then I'm sure that's asking too much, Oh well.

[SteveShannon]

9 minutes ago, Jaay said:

I'm hoping  someday, after reading everyone's comments expressing disgust at his rudeness and Lack of common sense that he may one day have a epiphany and realize that he's being an ASS, but then I'm sure that's asking too much, Oh well.

Everyone should just block him.  He’s getting his jollies by being mentioned by many.  Just completely ignore him.  Don’t look at those hidden posts he makes.  Make him as irrelevant to the forum as he is in life.

[OffRoaderX]

29 minutes ago, Jaay said:

I'm hoping  someday, after reading everyone's comments expressing disgust at his rudeness and Lack of common sense that he may one day have a epiphany and realize that he's being an ASS,

He did that already, a while back - he had his account deleted and asked the forum owner to delete all of his posts - my guess is because his callsign was showing and he realized that he was embarrassed to have people find out about who/what he really is.. where he works (if he even has a job).. where he lives (or where his parents house is, with him in the basement)..

I think Sir Steven Shannon, H.E.R.D., et al, got it right.. the only attention he gets in life is here when he acts like an idiot, so the best thing to do is ignore him and stop talking about him (startinggggg... NOW)..

[WRXL702]

Wow - Disappointing.....

Thought We Would All Be A Little More Professional With Posts - Regardless Of Personal Input Thoughts & Opinions.

 

Back To The Original Post With A Comment - I Personally Would Not Have An Interest In The Cobra Bubble Pack Unit, Due To The IP Rating & 2.5 Watt Output.

The End.....

[WRUE951]

3 hours ago, WRXL702 said:

Wow - Disappointing.....

Thought We Would All Be A Little More Professional With Posts - Regardless Of Personal Input Thoughts & Opinions.

 

Back To The Original Post With A Comment - I Personally Would Not Have An Interest In The Cobra Bubble Pack Unit, Due To The IP Rating & 2.5 Watt Output.

The End.....

Probaly cant remove the antenna on that radios as well?