Roger Beep

[jwilkers]

I agree.  I am a HAM as well as a new GMRS user (moving more to GMRS, just because folks seem nicer).  Just last evening, I added a stale repeater (open, no permission required to use) to my handheld and received an acknowledgement of my transmission and them promptly instructed to turn off the roger beep.  It took me by surprise.  Didn't know it was a thing with folks.  I wanted to respond back, but didn't want to start a thing... And I didn't know if it was his repeater (and it is always him) or not.  Just want to chat and learn...  

No good buddy beeps unless you want to find yourself with no one to talk to.

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[UncleYoda]

But I have a new radio that let's me select different sounds for the beep!  You know I've got to try it out.

[WRXB215]

4 hours ago, UncleYoda said:

But I have a new radio that let's me select different sounds for the beep!  You know I've got to try it out.

Let me know which one gets the most reactions.

[Northcutt114]

It is interesting to me that so many people in the GMRS community, if one can call it that, have such strong opinions about something so silly. Is it because CB bois use it and GMRS people are much more serious "radio operators?" What's the aversion? I really don't get it.

 

[WRXB215]

1 minute ago, Northcutt114 said:

It is interesting to me that so many people in the GMRS community, if one can call it that, have such strong opinions about something so silly. Is it because CB bois use it and GMRS people are much serious "radio operators?" What's the aversion? I really don't get it.

I've often wondered the same thing.

[SteveShannon]

4 hours ago, jwilkers said:

No good buddy beeps unless you want to find yourself with no one to talk to.

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Actually, the only people that won’t talk to you if you have a Roger beep are the folks who want to control others’ use of the Roger beep.  I would rather talk to the other people anyway.

[UncleYoda]

15 minutes ago, WRXB215 said:

Let me know which one gets the most reactions.

I would but I'm probably putting this radio away in a faraday cage box so I can grab it and throw in the car.  I selected option 3, a static burst that makes it sound like an old pro radio.  The first two are double beeps, indistinguishable from one another to my ears. I'm not sure the static will get the same hate reaction.  I would enable on my GMRS handhelds if they had it.

9 minutes ago, Northcutt114 said:

It is interesting to me that so many people in the GMRS community, if one can call it that, have such strong opinions about something so silly. Is it because CB bois use it and GMRS people are much serious "radio operators?" What's the aversion? I really don't get it.

 

If anything, even worse on ham.  AFAIK, they just hate the sound.  But repeaters that have a courtesy tone (not much different) are fine.

[Northcutt114]

6 minutes ago, WRXB215 said:

I've often wondered the same thing.

I can see, especially on a repeater or a net, where - if you have fifteen different users with fifteen different roger beeps, AND the repeater might have some tones or squelches or something - it could be a little bit chaotic. But, on a quiet, simple repeater to immediately be told, with no tact, to "turn off your roger beep" is wild to me. Same vibes as the guy who wears the CCW sash. Calm down, Boss Hog. You'll get them Duke Boys one day.

 

[WRYZ926]

Roger beeps don't bother me when on simplex.

29 minutes ago, Northcutt114 said:

I can see, especially on a repeater or a net, where - if you have fifteen different users with fifteen different roger beeps, AND the repeater might have some tones or squelches or something - it could be a little bit chaotic.

Yes it can be a little chaotic and annoying with a bunch of different Roger beeps along with the repeaters courtesy tone every time someone un-keys their mic.

I normally won't say much on our repeater if it is slow and there are only two people talking at the time. But I definitely don't want to hear a bunch of Roger beeps when there are multiple people on at one time or during a net.

[WRTC928]

19 hours ago, UncleYoda said:

If anything, even worse on ham.  AFAIK, they just hate the sound.  But repeaters that have a courtesy tone (not much different) are fine.

I recently trolled a ham Facebook page with that very fact.  In reality, I think it has to do with the fact that hams almost exclusively use repeaters while GMRS users use simplex a lot. If the repeater has a courtesy tone, roger beeps just create chaos. I was challenging the people on the page to justify hatred of the roger beep, but nobody came up with anything beyond, "they suck and so do people who use them".

[GreggInFL]

I'll use the Roger Beep on simplex with new users.

 

Me: Don't forget that you can't talk at the same time, you have to wait for them to stop talking.

New User: How do I know when they've stopped talking?

Me: When you hear the beep.

New User: Oh, okay.

 

I keep it off on my repeater units. I don't know why some people get so torqued-up over it, but I don't want a sad HAM to have an aneurism.

[WSEZ903]

There is a system by me that MDC or DTMF is REQUIRED to use the repeater.  It sees your assigned ID given to you by the owner and will open the repeater.   It also tracks who is using the repeater to cut out the people from playing around being "dumb".

[UncleYoda]

43 minutes ago, WSEZ903 said:

MDC or DTMF is REQUIRED

What is MDC?  I don't think any of my radios have that.  They do have other types of codes.

[amaff]

13 minutes ago, UncleYoda said:

What is MDC?  I don't think any of my radios have that.  They do have other types of codes.

Motorola Data Communications

[WRXL702]

MDC = Motorola Data Communications.

It Is An ID Assigned, Programmed Into & Associated To A Specific Radio To Allow Transmissions On To A Repeater.

It May Be A Pre, Post Or Both On A Transmission For ID So A Controller Can Recognize & Validate The Incoming Signal.

Some Use It As A ID Only For Other Radios To Recognize The Individual Ttansmitting.

[UncleYoda]

3 minutes ago, amaff said:

Motorola Data Communications

I thought that M might be for Motorola.  So these guys are setting up repeaters for only Motorola users?  That's the ultimate snobbery.  I don't own one, never have, never will (don't like the company or the Motorola-only attitudes of users.)