Adamdaj Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 I don't want to assume either way, but from what I understood, cousins are not immediate family. However, the FCC seems to consider everyone other than cousins to immediate family. I know what I have read, so did I miss something here? The Licensees Family Structure as I understand. Spouse Children or Stepchildren Siblings Parents & Grandparents Aunts & Uncles In Laws I did not see provisions to allow cousins to be under umbrella. Unless the FCC defines Cousins as Siblings. I am in now complaining, just wanted to see it I should go back and study the entire FCC Part 95 Rules and Regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back4more70 Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 If it was one of my cousins, I would tell them to get their own license. Maybe I'm just bitter because none of them sent a wedding gift WRZD727 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQC527 Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 52 minutes ago, Adamdaj said: The Licensees Family Structure as I understand. Spouse Children or Stepchildren Siblings Parents & Grandparents Aunts & Uncles In Laws So if Adam and Eve or Noah and Mrs. Noah had a GMRS license, we all would be covered. I think I'll re-up my Ancestry dot com membership and search for a GMRS licensee. It's worth a try. Save some moolah down the line. Every dollar helps, what with this inflation thing going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveShannon Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, WRQC527 said: So if Adam and Eve or Noah and Mrs. Noah had a GMRS license, we all would be covered. I think I'll re-up my Ancestry dot com membership and search for a GMRS licensee. It's worth a try. Save some moolah down the line. Every dollar helps, what with this inflation thing going on. If they were still alive… A license elapses when the licensee expires. Here’s the actual regulation: 2) Any individual who holds an individual license may allow his or her immediate family members to operate his or her GMRS station or stations. Immediate family members are the licensee's spouse, children, grandchildren, stepchildren, parents, grandparents, stepparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and in-laws. WSAG780 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRQC527 Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 36 minutes ago, Sshannon said: If they were still alive… A license elapses when the licensee expires. Here’s the actual regulation: 2) Any individual who holds an individual license may allow his or her immediate family members to operate his or her GMRS station or stations. Immediate family members are the licensee's spouse, children, grandchildren, stepchildren, parents, grandparents, stepparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and in-laws. Dangit. There's always a catch.The government will always get their moolah. WRUU653 and SteveShannon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveShannon Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 4 hours ago, WRQC527 said: Dangit. There's always a catch.The government will always get their moolah. Actually, the government will always get YOUR moolah! WRQC527 and WRUU653 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lscott Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Sshannon said: Actually, the government will always get YOUR moolah! Yeah, and our congress critters let them hire another 87,000 government employees to collect it from you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAF6045 Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 22 hours ago, Sshannon said: 2) Any individual who holds an individual license may allow his or her immediate family members to operate his or her GMRS station or stations. Immediate family members are the licensee's spouse, children, grandchildren, stepchildren, parents, grandparents, stepparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and in-laws. Essentially +/- two generations from the license holder. And that is a great expansion over the regulation from the early/mid 90s... Which had the additional clause of having to be living in the same residence as the license holder (we're back to the large family farm situation again). WRUU653 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamdaj Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 3:56 PM, WRQC527 said: So if Adam and Eve or Noah and Mrs. Noah had a GMRS license, we all would be covered. I think I'll re-up my Ancestry dot com membership and search for a GMRS licensee. It's worth a try. Save some moolah down the line. Every dollar helps, what with this inflation thing going on. Yep, I guess the FCC didn't really have to list every relation category. I just didn't want to assume the FCC excluded Cousins, unless it's the four-legged relatives. LOL Thanks! 73 to All SteveShannon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lscott Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 9 hours ago, WRXE944 said: You say that as if there is something wrong with it? I doubt they’ll be used to speed up getting your refund check sent out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAF6045 Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 17 hours ago, Adamdaj said: Yep, I guess the FCC didn't really have to list every relation category. I just didn't want to assume the FCC excluded Cousins, unless it's the four-legged relatives. LOL Thanks! 73 to All So far as I interpret it, cousins are NOT included. The "spread" is more diamond shaped than hourglass shaped. Grandparents Parents and their siblings (aunts/uncles to licensee) Licensee and spouse/siblings Children and nieces/nephews (ie; children of licensee's siblings) Grandchildren (As I recall, "cousins" derive from the siblings of the grandparents") Also recall that the licensee is the one responsible for the proper behavior of the users. If one of those family members lives too far away for reasonable monitoring, I wouldn't allow them to use the call-sign. So... the nieces living 60-100 miles south of me -- NO. The nieces visiting my brother (down the block, at most half a mile) -- YES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenMarbles Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Let’s be honest.. Nobody knows who’s your brother or sister or cousin on the air. If you’re on a ski trip with your “group” for a day and you handed out walkie talkies with your call on a label maker sticker on them, it’s not going to matter. I’m not confirming or denying if I do that or not, but there’s no use in getting that far into the weeds on that issue IMO.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveShannon Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 56 minutes ago, WSAK691 said: Let’s be honest.. Nobody knows who’s your brother or sister or cousin on the air. If you’re on a ski trip with your “group” for a day and you handed out walkie talkies with your call on a label maker sticker on them, it’s not going to matter. I’m not confirming or denying if I do that or not, but there’s no use in getting that far into the weeds on that issue IMO.. It’s an individual choice. If you choose to violate the regulations that’s your choice. You’re correct in anticipating that nobody can discern by listening whether someone is truly your relative. But many people like to fully understand what the regulations actually say. That’s not “going too far into the weeds.” If you’re not interested, just ignore the conversation. WRYZ926, wrci350, BoxCar and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTRA2 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 On 6/1/2023 at 1:58 PM, Sshannon said: Immediate family members are the licensee's spouse, children, grandchildren, stepchildren, parents, grandparents, stepparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and in-laws. Since they are using your callsign you will be responsible for their action on the airwaves. If they violate the rule, you're the one the FCC comes after since it's your callsign their using. (Just as a reminder) WSAG780 and WRXB215 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveShannon Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 33 minutes ago, ULTRA2 said: Since they are using your callsign you will be responsible for their action on the airwaves. If they violate the rule, you're the one the FCC comes after since it's your callsign their using. (Just as a reminder) That’s correct. Not only that, but you are expected to control their operations. WRXB215, ULTRA2 and WSAG780 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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