Deerstalker Posted July 28 Report Posted July 28 Is there any GMRS channel that is used most {like CB 19} for traveling the HI way across America? Plan on a cross country trip here soon! Thanks.. Quote
RayDiddio Posted July 28 Report Posted July 28 12 minutes ago, Deerstalker said: Is there any GMRS channel that is used most {like CB 19} for traveling the HI way across America? Plan on a cross country trip here soon! Thanks.. I may be wrong here, but my understanding is that there used to be but not really anymore. Some purists/traditionalists I guess still use a certain frequency for what you are asking though. Those channels are 19 and 20 (462.650 and 462.675 respectively) and apparently typically use 141.3 for the tone. The tribal elders here will eventually reply to correct me and/or point you in the right direction. WSDW347 1 Quote
Socalgmrs Posted July 28 Report Posted July 28 Oh no. Not this question again. It always brings out the old school crazies and the new school crazies and the close to the northern border crazies In the end the bottom line is, most likely no one is listening anyway so it won’t matter what frequency you use. If you have a road emergency or just want to chat with random strangers on a road trip the best bet would be to scan and see if any one is around. Then, even if you do hear them they may or may not have tones set. Hoppyjr 1 Quote
OffRoaderX Posted July 28 Report Posted July 28 It has been universally agreed to by some, and decreed by the Queen of all that is GMRS that channel 19 shall be the unofficial Official Road Channel for GMRS. So it is written, so shall it be done... Bear in mind that "some people" will vehemently disagree and argue to the death against this, but just remember that they are wrong. Sonicgott, WSDW347, kirk5056 and 8 others 3 1 7 Quote
RayDiddio Posted July 28 Report Posted July 28 13 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said: It has been universally agreed to by some, and decreed by the Queen of all that is GMRS that channel 19 shall be the unofficial Official Road Channel for GMRS. So it is written, so shall it be done... Bear in mind that "some people" will vehemently disagree and argue to the death against this, but just remember that they are wrong. This is the way. This is the answer. WSDU636, OffRoaderX and GP62 2 1 Quote
Over2U Posted July 28 Report Posted July 28 (edited) So, if you are calling for help, be sure to keep talking long enough for Channel 19 to come up on the ‘Scan Hit Parade’. Edited July 28 by Over2U “…be sure to keep…” added for emphasis. Quote
dosw Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 6 hours ago, OffRoaderX said: It has been universally agreed to by some, and decreed by the Queen of all that is GMRS that channel 19 shall be the unofficial Official Road Channel for GMRS. So it is written, so shall it be done... Bear in mind that "some people" will vehemently disagree and argue to the death against this, but just remember that they are wrong. Wishing the queen would decree that 9 is the official "kids playing walkie talkie" channel so that we could all get behind being irritated that nobody who hands toddlers a pair of radios to play with knows about the decree. Quote
TrikeRadio Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 8 hours ago, OffRoaderX said: It has been universally agreed to by some, and decreed by the Queen of all that is GMRS that channel 19 shall be the unofficial Official Road Channel for GMRS. So it is written, so shall it be done... Bear in mind that "some people" will vehemently disagree and argue to the death against this, but just remember that they are wrong. You have contradicted yourself @OffRoaderX In one of your videos I know you yourself decreed that 16 was the Official Off Road channel because 4x4=16 I stand justified in vehemently disagreeing with you. Quote
WRUU653 Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 10 minutes ago, TrikeRadio said: You have contradicted yourself @OffRoaderX In one of your videos I know you yourself decreed that 16 was the Official Off Road channel because 4x4=16 I stand justified in vehemently disagreeing with you. The difference is in this thread he isn’t referring to Off Road. The question was about a highway channel. Or as stated Hi way. Which I like to think is a pun for the intended communications. OffRoaderX, WRXB215 and SteveShannon 2 1 Quote
OffRoaderX Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 17 minutes ago, TrikeRadio said: You have contradicted yourself @OffRoaderX In one of your videos I know you yourself decreed that 16 was the Official Off Road channel because 4x4=16 As the esteemed gentleman from the California Central Coast ( @WRUU653 ) pointed out: I never contradict myself. Had you been paying attention you should understand that GMRS Channel 16 is for OFF ROAD as proven by the mathematical formula (4 X 4 = 16), and the OP is asking about the official HIGHWAY channel.. A highway is a road, and off-road is not a highway. Do better next time. SeaProbe, SteveShannon, Sonicgott and 3 others 1 2 3 Quote
SteveShannon Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 40 minutes ago, TrikeRadio said: You have contradicted yourself @OffRoaderX In one of your videos I know you yourself decreed that 16 was the Official Off Road channel because 4x4=16 I stand justified in vehemently disagreeing with you. Off road -> 16 On road-> 19 (by Queen decree) Those of us who live near or above “Line A” reserve the right to disregard His Majesty the Queen. WRUU653, kirk5056, WRVG829 and 3 others 3 1 2 Quote
OffRoaderX Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 1 minute ago, SteveShannon said: Those of us who live near or above “Line A” reserve the right to disregard His Majesty the Queen You people don't count. Hoppyjr, GreggInFL, PRadio and 4 others 1 6 Quote
SteveShannon Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 1 minute ago, OffRoaderX said: You people don't count. No taxation without representation! Hoppyjr and OffRoaderX 2 Quote
TrikeRadio Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 1 hour ago, OffRoaderX said: Do better next time. Darn. That's what I get for failing 2nd grade reading. rats! OffRoaderX and WSDV257 2 Quote
nokones Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 I believe Lines A & C, no longer exist in Part 95, Subpart E thus, there are no restrictions for using GMRS freqs near or in Canada. Now, if "you people" count or not is at the discretion of the Queen. Quote
SteveShannon Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 8 minutes ago, nokones said: I believe Lines A & C, no longer exist in Part 95, Subpart E thus, there are no restrictions for using GMRS freqs near or in Canada. Now, if "you people" count or not is at the discretion of the Queen. Why do you think that, Kenny? Certainly it’s still defined on this page: https://www.fcc.gov/engineering-technology/electromagnetic-compatibility-division/frequency-coordination-canada-below WRUU653, RayDiddio, dosw and 1 other 4 Quote
Davichko5650 Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 20 hours ago, OffRoaderX said: It has been universally agreed to by some, and decreed by the Queen of all that is GMRS that channel 19 shall be the unofficial Official Road Channel for GMRS. So it is written, so shall it be done... Bear in mind that "some people" will vehemently disagree and argue to the death against this, but just remember that they are wrong. I rarely monitor any channels other than the specific simplex channels Wifeypoo and I use within range when travelling on-road. When on the road solo, if I'm using a two-way radio, it's on HF. Locally, it's also either simplex or a couple repeaters, but mostly only family and a couple friends, I don't go looking for conversations with random operators as a rule. Off road of course I know that TQOATIG (pronounced - Quo Atig) has reminded us ad nauseum that Ch. 16 is the go to! Then again my Cheesehead friends over in Sconnie seem to like Ch. 7 for that. Quote
Davichko5650 Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 35 minutes ago, SteveShannon said: Why do you think that, Kenny? Certainly it’s still defined on this page: https://www.fcc.gov/engineering-technology/electromagnetic-compatibility-division/frequency-coordination-canada-below It's also still printed right on the License. gortex2 and WRUU653 2 Quote
SteveShannon Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, Davichko5650 said: It's also still printed right on the License. I considered mentioning that, but my license was printed almost three years ago. I don’t have a more current copy of a printed license. Davichko5650 and gortex2 2 Quote
back4more70 Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 hahaha there are no set channels for ANYTHING in life Davichko5650 1 Quote
nokones Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 4 hours ago, SteveShannon said: Why do you think that, Kenny? Certainly it’s still defined on this page: https://www.fcc.gov/engineering-technology/electromagnetic-compatibility-division/frequency-coordination-canada-below Because, I no longer see the restrictions for transmitting on GMRS freqs north of Line A and east of Line C stated in Part 95, Subparts A & E, and in any Letters of Agreement with Canada. So, it looks like that Canada and the United States have recently come to a mutual agreement on the use of GMRS and probably FRS freqs with a handshake and a couple of beers. I saw other freqs below 470 MHz listed that still require coordination but not GMRS freqs. Quote
SteveShannon Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 29 minutes ago, nokones said: Because, I no longer see the restrictions for transmitting on GMRS freqs north of Line A and east of Line C stated in Part 95, Subparts A & E, and in any Letters of Agreement with Canada. So, it looks like that Canada and the United States have recently come to a mutual agreement on the use of GMRS and probably FRS freqs with a handshake and a couple of beers. I saw other freqs below 470 MHz listed that still require coordination but not GMRS freqs. The specific restrictions are not in parts A and E. I don’t know if they ever were. Because changes to regulations are subject to the NPRM process by law, a better way to link regulations to treaties is by reference, which is done in 95.309, the superior portion of part 95 that affects all of the subparts: § 95.309 Coordination procedures and other restrictions for operation in certain locations. The operator of a Personal Radio Service station may be required to coordinate operation in advance and/or may be subject to operating restrictions if the station is to be operated in certain locations, described in the following paragraphs in this section. (b) Near a U.S. border or in an area that is or may be subject to an international treaty or agreement. Treaties and agreements may be viewed or downloaded from the FCC Web site: http://www.fcc.gov/ib/sand/agree/. The link in the quote leads to a bunch of agreements. The treaty that initially set aside Line A is referred to loosely as the Above 30 MHz Agreement, but there have been amendments and other treaties since 1962. I never have been able to find something other than my license that specifically states I cannot use channel 19 above Line A, so I really don’t know where to go to verify it. If new licenses continue to include that wording then I will avoid using the channel. Davichko5650, RayDiddio and kirk5056 3 Quote
nokones Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 15 minutes ago, SteveShannon said: The specific restrictions are not in parts A and E. I don’t know if they ever were. Because changes to regulations are subject to the NPRM process by law, a better way to link regulations to treaties is by reference, which is done in 95.309, the superior portion of part 95 that affects all of the subparts: § 95.309 Coordination procedures and other restrictions for operation in certain locations. The operator of a Personal Radio Service station may be required to coordinate operation in advance and/or may be subject to operating restrictions if the station is to be operated in certain locations, described in the following paragraphs in this section. (b) Near a U.S. border or in an area that is or may be subject to an international treaty or agreement. Treaties and agreements may be viewed or downloaded from the FCC Web site: http://www.fcc.gov/ib/sand/agree/. The link in the quote leads to a bunch of agreements. The treaty that initially set aside Line A is referred to loosely as the Above 30 MHz Agreement, but there have been amendments and other treaties since 1962. I never have been able to find something other than my license that specifically states I cannot use channel 19 above Line A, so I really don’t know where to go to verify it. If new licenses continue to include that wording then I will avoid using the channel. If I recollect, this issue was previously discussed in this forum several months ago and I remember that someone mentioned he just had his license renewed and the license did not have any listed waivers or conditions regarding the use of the GMRS 650 & 700 channel pairs north of Line A and east of Line C. Quote
BoxCar Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 44 minutes ago, nokones said: If I recollect, this issue was previously discussed in this forum several months ago and I remember that someone mentioned he just had his license renewed and the license did not have any listed waivers or conditions regarding the use of the GMRS 650 & 700 channel pairs north of Line A and east of Line C. This won't be decided here if those frequencies are available above Line A or east of Line C. Kenny, why didn't you verify your point with the FCC before posting your interpretation of the rules? Quote
nokones Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 48 minutes ago, BoxCar said: This won't be decided here if those frequencies are available above Line A or east of Line C. Kenny, why didn't you verify your point with the FCC before posting your interpretation of the rules? What makes you think that I didn't verify the facts before I posted. The two freqs are not subject to be coordinated between Canada and the United States, at least I am not seeing any information on the subject that requires any mutual coordination. Now, there are freqs below 470 MHz that do require mutual coordination between the two countries, but the GMRS 650 and 700 channels pairs are not listed in that Letter of Agreement. Quote
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